Eat fruits in diabetes

vero83 said:
really the nonsense that you have to read, the amount of properties that the fruit has and you have to limit consumption, when people will see the people that diabetics can eat everythingTo its fair measure, because of fruit, more even, now I just need to read that we stop being diabetics if we feed on water and air

In general, it is estimated that a patient can consume up to three portions per day, this is equivalent to an apple unit, peach or pear, or a cup of blueberries, blackberries, strawberries or cherries.

pink3 said:

vero83 said:
really the nonsense that must be read, the number of properties that the fruit has and you have to limit consumption,When people are going to see that diabetics can eat everything in their right measure, because of fruit, even more, now I just need to read that we stop being diabetics if we feed on water and air

In general, it is estimated that a patient can consume up to three portions per day, this is equivalent to an apple unit, peach or pear, or a cup of blueberries, blackberries, strawberries or cherries.

I ask you again you are diabetic ...

vero83 said:
really the nonsense that you have to read, the amount of properties that the fruit has and you have to limit consumption, when people will see the people that diabetics can eat everythingTo its fair measure, because of fruit, more even, now I just need to read that we stop being diabetics if we feed on water and air

The truth is that I am surprised by the food limitations that many people impose.Our specialist advises us 3 pieces of fruit per day.Without abusing banana, grapes, figs, and some other with high IG.But go, it is not that they prescribe us to limit fruit consumption for our daughter with DM1, they prescribe their daily and frequent consumption.

It gives me the feeling that people with diabetes develop an aversion towards HC due to the difficulty in managing the administration of insulin necessary to metabolize them, but of course no doctor will recommend any person with diabetes to limit fruit, but precisely the opposite.

@Diegoc There are many people obsessed with hydrates, they say that they don't have peaks, because of course and if you just drink water, I don't get you out, I have been dm1 for more than 20 years, always eaten everything, fruit, pasta, everything and everything andI control it with insulin and I have glycosilada of 5.3, but people want to be between 50 and 60 mg/dl and that is very bad a normal person is almost never below 80 or 90 mg/dl and also have peaks, there areA lot of obsession, some already tells you that the endocrine recommends few hydrates and a good endocrine will never take away the hydrates, it will not tell you that you fell to eat sandwiches, but hydrates are recommended

@Diegoc is not the same a minor in development as an adult.
The more US insulin, the more developing resistance, and more and more units are needed and more fat.It is not only a hydrate management issue.
Since the sensors exist, good endocrine reduce the intake of hydrates in their recommendations.

@Ruthbia, a person with diabetes needs the same hydrates as a person without diabetes.A good endocrine will advise the ideal amount and consume fruit, always.I don't think your endocrine recommends reducing your apple consumption.

And yes, it is true that children need to ingest more hydrates than adults, but they have diabetes or not.Myself without having diabetes I limit my consumption of hydrates, not as pasta, very little bread, however consumption quite fruit and dairy products.If I started a plate of macaroni every time my daughter eats it, or if I started a snack every time my daughter eats it, I would also gain weight and end up probably developing insulin resistance or other problems derived from poor diet.

Andrespmat said:
@diegoc there are many people obsessed with hydrates, they say that they do not have peaks, of course and if you only drink water, it does not upload water either, I have been in DM1 for more than 20 years,I always eaten everything, fruit, pasta, everything and control it with insulin and I have 5.3 glycosylated, but people want to be between 50 and 60 mg/dl and that is very bad a normal person is almost never belowFrom 80 or 90 mg/dl and they also have peaks, there is a lotHydrates are recommended are necessary

And so much that they are necessary.Its exaggerated reduction can lead precisely to ketosis, which is one of the most immediate consequences of hyperglycemia, which is precisely what we try to avoid every day!

diegoc said:
@ruthbia, a person with diabetes needs the same hydrates as a person without diabetes.A good endocrine will advise the ideal amount and consume fruit, always.I don't think your endocrine recommends reducing your apple consumption.

And yes, it is true that children need to ingest more hydrates than adults, but they have diabetes or not.Myself without having diabetes I limit my consumption of hydrates, not as pasta, very little bread, however consumption quite fruit and dairy products.If I started a plate of macaroni every time my daughter eats it, or if I started a snack every time my daughter eats it, I would also gain weight and end up probably developing insulin resistance or other problems derived from poor diet./Blockquote>

Well, let me tell you, if your endocrine does not limit HC, it is not updated, obviously a child normally moves more than an adult, has more vitality and can take more HC PQ burns.
HC are not essential nutrients, they are not, the energy for the brain and the muscle can be obtained from other sources, but obviously the food with HC is rich and in many cases it is healthy but it is not essential to take HC and less large quantityOf these and more if you have DB, which is precisely characterized by poor assimilation of HC, and updated endocrine, from the sensors do not recommend 60 p hundred HC in the diet, put more proteins and healthy fats and less HC.It has been seen that an HC intake of that type, over the years it ends up producing insulin resistance PQ more and more insulin is needed to carry good control and that increase in insulin makes fat and fattening, more need for insulin and we enterIn a vicious circle.And we add a type 2 DB to a existing type 1 DB.
Yes there are essential amino acids, but not essential, that is so.Another thing is that we want to take HC pq we like and are good those foods and that I don't know how to restrict children or make them more bearable life especially at a social level but they are not essential.I know young people with DB with cin ketogenic diet A fully normal development and growth, that I do not share or could but that it shows that HC are not essential nutrients.
If there are many DB here with high HC intake and taking a lot of fruit, with good glys, congratulations, I do not know how they will do it but it is not usual.
And Imptes non -diabetics do not have, I have proven it several times with family and friends not dB.After an hour or less of eating, they do not reach 110 and if there is an intake with a barbarity of HC it can reach 130-140 but in nothing low at normal levels.
It is not obsession, it is trying to take care, this is something for a lifetime and we try to reach an age with the lower possible limitations and avoid important complications that are glys of more than 6 -6.5 maintained in the TPO.I see for my profession many DB 1 and 2 with many serious complications.
It tells you one Q has been for more than 40 years.

It also influences the slow insulin that is used.My daughter, before Lantus, had an insulin that needed many hydrates, always tended to Hip, and that we divided it into two doses.
With the toujeo now, it has restricted them a lot, because control becomes more difficult with more hydrates.

meginer said:

diegoc said:
@ruthbia, a person with diabetes needs the same hydrates as a person without diabetes.A good endocrine will advise the ideal amount and consume fruit, always.I don't think your endocrine recommends reducing your apple consumption.

And yes, it is true that children need to ingest more hydrates than adults, but they have diabetes or not.Myself without having diabetes I limit my consumption of hydrates, not as pasta, very little bread, however consumption quite fruit and dairy products.If I started a plate of macaroni every time my daughter eats it, or if I started a snack every time my daughter eats it, I would also gain weight and end up probably developing insulin resistance or other problems derived from poor diet./Blockquote>

Well, let me tell you, if your endocrine does not limit HC, it is not updated, obviously a child normally moves more than an adult, has more vitality and can take more HC PQ burns.
HC are not essential nutrients, they are not, the energy for the brain and the muscle can be obtained from other sources

Please, find out and stop saying barbarities.Excuse me, but these types of statements can do a lot of damage to people with the disease.HC are fundamental to life.

In any case, it is best to consult each one to its endocrine.It is more or less updated, mine is lucky that it has very up -to -date knowledge, none will affirm that HC are substitutable.

diegoc said:

meginer said:

diegoc said:
diegoc said:
@ruthbia, a person with diabetes needs the same hydratesthan a person without diabetes.A good endocrine will advise the ideal amount and consume fruit, always.I don't think your endocrine recommends reducing your apple consumption.

And yes, it is true that children need to ingest more hydrates than adults, but they have diabetes or not.Myself without having diabetes I limit my consumption of hydrates, not as pasta, very little bread, however consumption quite fruit and dairy products.If I started a plate of macaroni every time my daughter eats it, or if I started a snack every time my daughter eats it, I would also gain weight and end up probably developing insulin resistance or other problems derived from poor diet./Blockquote>

Well, let me tell you, if your endocrine does not limit HC, it is not updated, obviously a child normally moves more than an adult, has more vitality and can take more HC PQ burns.
HC are not essential nutrients, they are not, the energy for the brain and the muscle can be obtained from other sources

Please, find out and stop saying barbarities.Excuse me, but these types of statements can do a lot of damage to people with the disease.HC are fundamental to life.

In any case, it is best to consult each one to its endocrine.It is more or less updated, mine is lucky that it has very up -to -date knowledge, none will affirm that the HC are substitutable.

@Diegoc to see, I would not be so daring to launch such statements.Telling you that @meginer is a doctor and also diabetic for many years.So I guess something will know about what he is talking about.

Of course I trust what she says.

On the Internet there are many doctors, chemicals, architects and daring !!
And cracks that in real life they are not so !!

sandman said:

@Diegoc to see, I would not be so daring to launch such statements.Telling you that @meginer is a doctor and also diabetic for many years.So I guess something will know about what he is talking about.

Of course I trust what she says.

Which demonstrates precisely what he said of how dangerous messages of people who claim to be doctors can be and are not.

And if he is a doctor I hope he does not exercise, because if he is saying this to his patients ...

HC are not essential nutrients, they are not, the energy for the brain and the muscle can be obtained from other sources

It is a real danger.

Without HC we cannot live, so look if they are essential.And if its intake is reduced too much, the shape of the body to generate energy is to burn fat, which produces ketosis and ketoacidosis, which can put life at risk.

So better to trust our specialist and not trust internet "doctors" assumptions.

I still remember the one who died in Vigo alone at home with Diogenes syndrome and had 2500 friends on Facebook and everyone said it was very cultured, he knew of law, advised in everything and put precious photos and look who he was !!

Andrespmat said:
I still remember the one who died in Vigo only at home with Diogenes syndrome and had 2500 friends on Facebook and everyone said it was very cultured, he knew of law, he advised in everything and putprecious photos and look who it was !!

Those of us who have been in this forum for some time already know the validity of the comments of the forgings to which it is worth reading and those who do not

phosphorero said:

Andrespmat said:
I still remember the one who died in Vigo only at home with Diogenes syndrome and had 2500 friends on Facebook and everyone said thatIt was very cultured, I knew of law, advised in everything and put precious photos and look who it was !!

Those of us who have been in this forum for some time already know the validity of the comments of the forgings to which it is worth reading and those that do not

I am glad, because I am not Pytonese !!

Andrespmat said:

phosphorero said:

Andrespmat said:
Andrespmat said:
still remember the one who died in vigo alone at home withDiogenes syndrome and had 2500 friends on Facebook and everyone said it was very cult

Those of us who have been in this forum for some time already know the validity of the comments of the forgings to which it is worth reading and those that do not

I'm glad, because I'm not Pytonese !!

Well, nothing will have to stop entering the forum.Total here we are all importers who only want to deceive and give bad advice to people.

In fact I am not even a diabetic.I only enter the laughter from time to time.

@Sandman, I'm not saying, I entered or I don't know, I say about the professions that everyone says !!Of the comments we are all Mayocytes and we know that some must take it with tweezers !!
And the laughter, there are comments that are to laugh 😆 🤣🤣🤣 And I no longer comment on this thread, because there is some tired that always takes it personal and I have a very busy life, as if to be answering !!🤣🤣🤣🤣 Good morning to all !!

diegoc said:

sandman said:
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@Diegoc to see, I would not be so daring to launch such statements.Telling you that @meginer is a doctor and also diabetic for many years.So I guess something will know about what he is talking about.

Of course I trust what she says.

Which demonstrates precisely what he said of how dangerous messages of people who claim to be doctors can be and are not.

And if he is a doctor I hope he does not exercise, because if he is saying this to his patients ...

HC are not essential nutrients, they are not, the energy for the brain and the muscle can be obtained from other sources

It is a real danger.

Without HC we cannot live, so look if they are essential.And if its intake is reduced too much, the shape of the body to generate energy is to burn fat, which produces ketosis and ketoacidosis, which can put life at risk.

So better to trust our specialist and not trust internet "doctors" assumptions.

Yes, I am a doctor and work in public health for more than 26 years, and I continuously updated.
Loa HC of the diet !!!They are not fundamental as.And ketoacidosis is not produced, so that there is, w necessary that hyperglycemia and lack of insulin coincide (as when one debuts), and that in a diabetic treated with insulin, does not happen or should not happen if it is controlled..
Precisely a few weeks ago there was an endocrine of a public hospital giving us a talk about intermittent fasting (not in children, of course) and recommended it a lot for DB, as well as a low diet in HC.
So neither invented it nor am I a false doctor nor Guru as you have said.
And shower this, I do not intervene in this issue not because of direct allusions, each one who does what he creates and wants and thinks that it is better, I only expose and share what they tell me professionals in this regard and that I also check also inmy life.Greetings.

Andrespmat said:
@sandman, I'm not saying, I entered or I don't know, I say about the professions that everyone says !!Of the comments we are all Mayocytes and we know that some must take it with tweezers !!
And the laughter, there are comments that are to laugh 😆 🤣🤣🤣 And I no longer comment on this thread, because there is some tired that always takes it personal and I have a very busy life, as if to be answering !!🤣🤣🤣🤣 Good morning to all !!

Quiet, I have not taken it personal.And laughing is very healthy;): D: D: D

PS: The main thing is that we try to help each other.And always in a good mood.: p