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In this forum everyone thinks without being doctors and we dare to recommend doses of insulin and the typical phrase: it is my truth to me: and each body is a world, I do not know why some opinions bothers you so much that do not coincide with theYou, do not think and that's it, whoever tries it and the one who does not, because it does not do so, is very easy, without scandalizing so much or saying that you defend the truth, if the forum itself itself, it is more a supportpsychological and people who have little life, to say in some way, without offending anyone, because you all give opinion and criticize doctors and pharmaceuticals, and none are doctors to advise anyone, and suddenly with some opinion you want to becomeIn saviors, I don't know who !!And in Adalices of I do not know what, that nobody is offended, but I like freedom of expression, because at least what I see is that someone understands everything or wants to be more intelligent, respect, to be respected

I also include myself in what I said, maybe it's the worst, that is sure, opinion and respect and the one who doesn't want to do it

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11/22/2022 2:24 p.m.
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Dear Andrés;
In short, we have to respect and let the one who tries it.
Thank you very much friend for your understanding.

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11/22/2022 2:28 p.m.
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Yes, there are studies that refer that vitamin D decreases the autoimmune effect, obviously does not cure the type 1 DM but can decrease the risk of association of other autoimmune diseases and even reduce insulin resistance.
The problem is that the high doses of vit d, can produce hypercalcemia, so there are prepared that combine the vit D with compounds that avoid this but are not financed because this is quite new and is under study.
Anyway, I think that the high doses of vitamin D, you have to take them with medical supervision by a professional who knows the subject.
By the way, vitamin D is really being seen is not a vitamin but a hormone and influences a multitude of processes in the body.

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11/22/2022 5:33 p.m.
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@"Ismael Forcada Bagant" I am not afraid of anything, but I do not like to take any medication, I avoid everything, except insulin and because I would die, but also, I would not inject it either.
The day there is a treatment that regenerates beta cells and inhibits my antibodies, I will value it.

You take what you want, it is your body and you will suffer the consequences.

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11/22/2022 6:27 p.m.

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Dear ruth:
This is the same as Covid vaccination.He who believes is vaccinated.
Very well said: I do what I think is better and you do what you think is better for you.

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11/22/2022 6:31 p.m.
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11/22/2022 6:40 p.m.

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I fear that I supplement with omega3 vitamins D and magnesium ..... JJJJ.Look at the studies that deal with this supplementation with the evolution and progression of the autoimmune attack ... in English that yes.I have scientific training, I am biochemist, and it seemed very convincing.

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11/22/2022 10:12 p.m.
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Dear alert:
Thank you very much for your comment.

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11/23/2022 1:07 p.m.
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Superb or arrogance is to think that an opinion is above others even above that of health professionals and call someone ignorant for disagreeing with their opinion.

The same is complicated to assimilate for a technocratic mind, more than a digestion of carbohydrates and fats, which by the way fats create insulin resistance wrapping the food bolus in a hydrophobic layer that makes it insulin resistant and therefore insulin costs itActing slows its assimilation, but does not become carbohydrates as some assert here, it was explaining the pattern in square that many comment on having to puncture several times insulin one in food and another several hours later, but I repeat is notBecause fats become carbohydrates but because they inhibit the effect of insulin.

I have prescribed vitamin D hydroferol and has told me that yes, that there are studies and scientific evidence of incidence and relationship with the vitamin D deficit and autoimmune diseases and that although depending on latitudes, in the northernmost areas it was logicalHaving less hours of sun, its inhabitants would have lower levels of vitamin D there were also cases of people in the Canary Islands with vitamin D deficit, Ergo is due to a problem of assimilation of the organism and not exclusively of the environmental weather conditions, ofI am betting that in Nordic countries they go one step ahead of us and supplement a lot of foods with vitamin D and that it was more worth preventing to cure, that would literally avoid a lot of future expenses for public coffers avoiding allocating resources to health field.

When I told her that there was a person who adduced according to opinion that when she debuted, vitamin D was not prescribed or that she knew cases in which she was supplemented, I wonder about her profession, I told her that she was obviously not a doctor.

I hope that it does not seem bad that I supplement me with hydroferol by medical prescription and that more than one person who has spent 10 years between career, Mir, specialty and that recently still has that illusion for his profession, goes constantly, goes to symposia,Conferences that sorry for your opinion, sorry for the discomfort and possible offenses that may cause your mercy and in case of capital grievance I put myself at the foot of their horses.

He described me as rare avis for having the range at 100% the last two weeks, I only comment for those who have appreciated me, they have it a little more, since you also like to put your foot of your pageglyc values ​​because of mine.Max-Width: 300px;

For the proper functioning of the forum and maintaining the concord, peace ,, because it would not be to recognize the errors and turn page, I can often look as an ignorant, but the one who accepts his mistakes is ignorant once, untilOpen your mouth and recognize your mistakes that does not recognize your mistakes is as ignorant all your life.

Andrés,, you start me until I like it and you are right about free opinion and thought.
In that I believe that we look, in being authentic people although I suppose enmity, a coherent and original person with herself is logical that lifts philias and phobias.
When one tries to please and like everyone, it is certainly not a lack of vitamin D and but lack of personality

GREETING Librepensing friends who do not restrict your freedom never

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11/23/2022 4:12 p.m.

Woody Allen: “Sé que no merezco el Príncipe de Asturias, pero tampoco la diabetes que padezco”.

  

madmax said:
pride or arrogance is to think that an opinion is above others even above that of health professionals and call someone ignorant for disagreeing with their opinion.

The same is complicated to assimilate for a technocratic mind, more than a digestion of carbohydrates and fats, which by the way fats create insulin resistance wrapping the food bolus in a hydrophobic layer that makes it insulin resistant and therefore insulin costs itActing slows its assimilation, but does not become carbohydrates as some assert here, it was explaining the pattern in square that many comment on having to puncture several times insulin one in food and another several hours later, but I repeat is notBecause fats become carbohydrates but because they inhibit the effect of insulin.

I have prescribed vitamin D hydroferol and has told me that yes, that there are studies and scientific evidence of incidence and relationship with the vitamin D deficit and autoimmune diseases and that although depending on latitudes, in the northernmost areas it was logicalHaving less hours of sun, its inhabitants would have lower levels of vitamin D there were also cases of people in the Canary Islands with vitamin D deficit, Ergo is due to a problem of assimilation of the organism and not exclusively of the environmental weather conditions, ofI am betting that in Nordic countries they go one step ahead of us and supplement a lot of foods with vitamin D and that it was more worth preventing to cure, that would literally avoid a lot of future expenses for public coffers avoiding allocating resources to health field.

When I told her that there was a person who adduced according to opinion that when she debuted, vitamin D was not prescribed or that she knew cases in which she was supplemented, I wonder about her profession, I told her that she was obviously not a doctor.

I hope that it does not seem bad that I supplement me with hydroferol by medical prescription and that more than one person who has spent 10 years between career, Mir, specialty and that recently still has that illusion for his profession, goes constantly, goes to symposia,Conferences that sorry for your opinion, sorry for the discomfort and possible offenses that may cause your mercy and in case of capital grievance I put myself at the foot of their horses.

He described me as rare avis for having the range at 100% the last two weeks, I only comment for those who have appreciated me, they have it a little more, since you also like to put your foot of your pageglyc values ​​because of mine.Max-Width: 300px;

For the proper functioning of the forum and maintaining the concord, peace ,, because it would not be to recognize the errors and turn page, I can often look as an ignorant, but the one who accepts his mistakes is ignorant once, untilOpen your mouth and recognize your mistakes that does not recognize your mistakes is as ignorant all your life.

Andrés,, you start me until I like it and you are right about free opinion and thought.
In that I believe that we look, in being authentic people although I suppose enmity, a coherent and original person with herself is logical that lifts philias and phobias.
When one tries to please and like everyone, it is certainly not a lack of vitamin D and but lack of personality

GREETING Librepensing friends who do not restrict your freedom never

Ok👍🏻
In the end we are so similar that that's why we had differences !!
Take care of greetings !!

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11/23/2022 4:30 p.m.
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But always with a medical recipe, who already know the dose they recipe.

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Regina
11/24/2022 1:16 a.m.

Hija de 35 años , diabética desde los 5. Glico: normalmente de 6 , pero 6,7 la última ( 6,2 marcaba el Free)
Fiasp: 4- 4- 3 Toujeo: 20

  

regina said:
but always with medical recipe, who already know the dose they recipe.

That depends on which endocrine you touch you.Mine has refused to make vitamin D analysis because it says that in young people it is not necessary.What do we do in that case?Take a supplement on our account in dose that are 100% safe or risk all the problems caused by the vitamin D deficit?
I am sure to take it on my own.And more taking into account that in most Spain most of the year is not synthesized vitamin D with the sun.

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11/24/2022 6:18 a.m.

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@Yessica_a, is that they should include it in analytics.My daughter was prescribed by the gynecologist, because they also found her leave.
I think it is because we have lost our lives outdoors and in contact with nature, which is needed,

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Regina
11/24/2022 10:28 a.m.

Hija de 35 años , diabética desde los 5. Glico: normalmente de 6 , pero 6,7 la última ( 6,2 marcaba el Free)
Fiasp: 4- 4- 3 Toujeo: 20

  

Hello everyone.When I debuted I had vitamin D. deficit they sent me vitamin D supplements and since then they are prescribed.10000 units a week in winter and every two in summer.Not only is it good to maintain its optimal levels for diabetes, but also for the immune system in general.On whether it affects the control of glucose values, I personally cannot say much, since I have been taking it since I was diagnosed with the D1, but except when I go to party or as something new (always calculate under myself, to avoid thehypo) I do not usually have high peaks, and I have only sometimes I have intense sports activities (for example, Nordic march, 15 to 20 kilometers, rhythm 6:50 to 7:10 minutes per kilometer, or skiing in the background now inwinter).As additional information, the European countries with the highest incidence of D1 are Finland and Sweden, two countries where the vitamin D deficit is almost general in the population due to the low sunlight they receive for 8 months a year.Although there is surely an important genetic factor, it is also possible that the lack of vitamin D has something to do.By the way I live in Latvia, so diabetic or not, the need to summarize with vitamin D is practically inevitable.

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PabloRiga
11/28/2022 11:20 a.m.

51 años. D1, o LADA, o véte tu a saber que nunca me lo han confirmado, desde 2018. Toujeo 12ud/día. Lantus (entre 8 y 15 unidades diarias). Camino más de 10 kilómetros diarios. Ultima HbA1c: 5.6% Octubre 2022.

  

Dear Paul:
If you have seen my first publication, you will understand that the dose you take is very short.Keep in mind that the sun makes us produce vitamin D, but, most of the problems are caused by enzymatic blockages in the conversion of provitamin D into vitamin D: And that is precisely what happens to those who have autoimmune diseases.
In summary, you have to inform yourself with a doctor who does the Coimbra protocol to take the appropriate dose for you and reduce your autoimmunity keeping diabetes in remission.

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11/28/2022 12:34 p.m.
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ismael forcada bagant said:
estimated Paul:
If you have seen my first publication, you will understand that the dose you take is very short.Keep in mind that the sun makes us produce vitamin D, but, most of the problems are caused by enzymatic blockages in the conversion of provitamin D into vitamin D: And that is precisely what happens to those who have autoimmune diseases.
In summary, you have to inform yourself with a doctor who does the Coimbra protocol to take the appropriate dose for you and reduce your autoimmunity keeping diabetes in remission.

Estimated Ismael, I have not intended at any time to insinuate that the Coimbra protocol was following.My endocrine does not follow.I simply wanted to emphasize that it is very important to have optimal levels of vitamin D and that this is what my doctor intends with the prescribed dose that by the way are 25000 weekly units, no 10000 as I said in my publication.I have not found any doctor who follows the Coimbra protocol where I reside, but I will ask my endocrine about it, which surely she knows about him.It is true that it interests me and that there have already been studies reviewed in pairs on it, giving its effectiveness.In addition to diabetes, I have now begun to suffer from arthritis and it seems that it can help me not go to anymore, so for trying it will not remain.But as you have said, everything must be reviewed and controlled by a specialist doctor.The only paste is that vitamin D is not included among the substances subsidized by Social Security here in Latvia, which would mean a huge expense in the daily doses you comment.100000 units cost about 10 euros here.If I have to take that amount daily, it is better to really work :)

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PabloRiga
11/28/2022 3:21 p.m.

51 años. D1, o LADA, o véte tu a saber que nunca me lo han confirmado, desde 2018. Toujeo 12ud/día. Lantus (entre 8 y 15 unidades diarias). Camino más de 10 kilómetros diarios. Ultima HbA1c: 5.6% Octubre 2022.

  

"The Coimbra protocol to take the appropriate dose for you and reduce your autoimmunity keeping diabetes in remission.

Diabetes is not cured or sending if there are no beta cells of insulin producers, there is no insulin.Even if you take a vitamin D truck per day.Another thing is that your insulin needs 1 or 2 units lower.

The autoimmunity will depend on the type of antibodies generated, it would be necessary to see it with professionals.But I see that IG and GAD antibody disappear, in fact in pancreas transplants Recipes Immunodesters of diabetic antibodies, it must be because with vitamin D it is not enough.

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11/28/2022 5:23 p.m.

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Dear Paul:
If you had to take vitamin D, better buy it in IHERB.The recommendation made by Coimbra to start is 1000 international vitamin D units per kilo and then regulate the dose according to the PTH (parohormone that regulates the blood calcium levels) that must be at the lower limit of the PTH normal values ​​interval.
This is what I have read in the files I sent to the forum.
The best thing is to guide someone who knows the protocol.

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11/28/2022 5:30 p.m.
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Dear ruth:
There is a blockade in insulin generation.
How do you know that it is not a blockade and it is a death cell death?
How do you talk with such certainty of something that nobody knows?
How do you know that there are no beta cells and who says they can't regenerate?

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11/28/2022 5:41 p.m.
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Buy in Pharmacy, if there is deficit in the analytics

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11/28/2022 6:56 p.m.

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