I think I can have diabetes (Lada?) And I am very scared.

Good night,

I have launched myself to this forum because I am having a bad time.

I am 37 years old and never I have gone to the doctor until 3 years ago, where my medical journey began by chance.

I went to the doctor because I had a little gut pain that was not leaving (nothing that caught anyone's attention), and after much insist, I ended up diagnosed with Crohn.Since then I will have visited dozens of doctors looking for double, triple and quadruple opinions that tell me that I do not have what I have.The acceptance phase lasts a lot, although I have a very mild version (today), which does not even take any medication at this time (it is not always so).

This event completely changed my mind.A chronic disease changes your life.It is a reality.

The fact is that precisely following this disease, blood controls make me more continuously.Prior to this, I only have the analysis that they did at work annually, where basal glucose until 2017 was 8x and then an average of 9x in 2018 and 2019.

The first analysis where the high glucose jumped was at the end of 2020, when they reviewed me for the issue of Crohn, where it gave me 104 on an empty stomach.No one gave him more importance, unless they recommended me to make me a glycosilada in the next one.The next analytics (mid -2021) was not fasting, and measured the glycosilada first time.I do not remember exactly the value and I do not have access to those results, but I remember that it was a low value, approximately 4.6 or so.They told me then that I forgot because it was all perfectly.
At the end of 2021, another fasting analysis with 98 basal and 4.8 glycosilada.It seemed a lot to be the basal considering that I did it after more than 12 hours of fasting, but hey, the glycosilada was fine.Again they told me to forget.
The fact is that now, a couple of weeks ago, a new fasting analytics (14 hours) has given me 104 and 5.2 glycosilada.This result has made it enters a tremendous spiral of obsession, since glycosilada has been increasing since it was measured from the first time and now it had been fasting for 14 hours and even with those gave me 104!.This is not very normal.

I've been looking for information without stopping.Keep in mind that I went for a gut pain and far from being a simple gastroenteritis I returned with a crohn.This makes anything likely to be the worst.
Since I have myself - and also a family history - autoimmune diseases, I do nothing but think of DM 1 type lada.I do not see another response to having glucose in the limit at my age, being very thin (BMI of 20) and not consuming added sugars (I usually take everything "zero", although it is true that pasta and bread as much) and beingin physical form.
I have asked to do the antibody test (Gada, IAA, IA2, Ica) as well as a peptide analysis.They do not give me the results for up to 2 weeks and really that I am suffering a lot, because I find no other explanation to these values.

Fun to an endocrine (who asked me the antibodies), and told me that obviously the analysis values ​​did not indicate a diabetes, but that he could not rule out that he had an incipient strain since the basal glucose has been increasingAnd I have a history of autoimmune diseases (none with diabetes).

I write this post as relief, because I do not think these fasting values ​​are normal and I am terrified with the idea of ​​suffering from DM1.You have to put in context that when I was diagnosed with Crohn was a shock of such proportions that gave a 180 degree turn in the way you live things.

Every day that passes I have worse, thinking that they will give the analyzes.WhileSo much, I bought a glucometer but it does not reach me until the weekend.When I have it I will see in detail the measurements.

Perhaps it may seem to you that the answer is exaggerated, but when you go to the doctor for a fully functional gut pain - and that I went because it was a "cognizage" more than a nuisance - and you go out with a chronic disease without healing, the tortazoIt is important.Now I simply do not see another explanation to these fasting glucose values ​​other than a DM (I thought that stress could be, but the cortisol gave me inside the margin).

As a note, I emphasize that no medication the crohn affects sugar, and that even the first value of 104 had been taken without having taken any related medication.

Thank you all for your understanding.

You are not diabetic or coña.These values ​​are of healthy person.They change according to the day, stress, etc.Who tells you otherwise, is not a doctor.Diabetes implies glucose above 130mg/dl on an empty stomach and a glyce above 6.
When debuting is not gradual as in type 2, it is big.To be normal to a glucose fog, in my case in 3 months from the company analytics to the debut, from 85 to 345 on an empty stomach.

Now if you want to be sick, keep obsessing you.

Thank you very much for your quick answer, Ruthbia.

Fear is irrational, and after the diagnosis of Crohn my normality concept has crumbled.Everything is likely to be catastrophic.

Apart from everything, I do not know in detail such as debuts, but I have read in the forum many people who started slightly with a DM2 and then confirmed with antibodies that was 1.
I have also read that many times the 1 -type type begins without the need for insulin dependence and with insidious beginnings.
My fear is precisely because of my selfimmune load that makes me think of a DM1, but I have no idea, it could be a 2, I don't know.

Apart from everything, I wanted to let off steam and know your opinions.

Thank you :)

The safest thing is that you are not diabetic.The values ​​you comment are not determinants, they are very good.
What you have is a lot of anxiety and that if you should control it.It is significant that you are so informed about the D1 and the Lada and that you have registered in the forum without a diagnosis.
True, fear is free, but that stress is not good for your health.
I leave you a link to a video with interesting infornation

Link

Forget about diabetes and focus on calming your mind and reducing anxiety.
I really drew up that in two weeks you have no need to return here

Thanks salad.

You are not reason in your comment,
Your video is very interesting.Marián Rojas is extraordinary.

In the last analysis I asked for cortisol and gave within the margins, although the prolactin was a little above the range.

I think that stress is the worst, and that is precisely the fear I have, that it may be too late to have noticed.

When I receive the glucometer I will put some values, and of course I will publish the results of the AC.

All the best :)

@Artfj I debut with Lada at 42. Before I had never gone to the doctor, or the girl's pediatrician, and my first blood test was with 29 years and because they forced me in the company to the third year of rejecting them.Then I have been making regularly and I never had indications of diabetes in any, or anything.

Do not obsess, enjoy life, go from diabetes (which you don't have) and stop disease;Those you have to have will already give their notice in the annual controls.It is better not to know, from an age, things are leaving but do not prevent a normal life and enjoy it with friends and family.

Accept life as it comes, don't give him more around.Sometimes it is good to visit a professional, a psychologist can help you a lot.

It is not quiet diabetes, you do not eat your head, 104 on an empty stomach is normal, I was 380 fasting when you debut by diabetes 31 years ago, you should not get obsessed with these things

Quiet, do not overwhelm, they are very good results and as they have told you, they are never fixed, they change according to the day of the analytics.But they are far from the results of a diabetic.
I understand that Crohn has predisposed you to think badly but you have to change it.All the time you have been overwhelmingly overwhelmed for no reason and will not come back and it is really important to enjoy time.You must also think about several things: one, that Crohn already came to you without waiting for you, everything will not come to you now.Another, that in life will come to us good and bad things and we will leave the second (and I do not talk about diseases only) but worrying without knowing does not mean and does not solve anything, vice versa.

And well, I bet you are not diabetic.Any forum would sign your results.But if even with the years (after many years) a diabetes like as many, calm, one lives with it, one becomes part of the daily life.Do not stress.

Hello, everyone,

The first thank you very much for your answers, they really help me a lot;Not only from the point of view of your experience but also because they help show my stress.

You all agree at the same point, in which life must be enjoyed and not obsess or complicate it more than she does, and you are right, but the theory is simple and putting it into practice is very complicated.

@Ruthbia I have tried several therapies, although all of them before the Crohn.I have not had much success, although I will continue trying, because at this time I feel unable to smile thinking about all this (and if this is not, another thing will be)

@isabelBota, I also think that only two and a half years ago of Crohn, and that it would not be fair or proportional, but on the other hand life is like that, the joys and misfortunes rain without asking.

On the other hand, one of the studies that led me to think about this is this: Link

Here it details that: dysglycemia in This stage of type 1 diabetes you have been defined in severe studies by unpaired fasting plasma glucose of ≥100 mg/dl (≥5.6 mmol/l) or ≥110 mg/dl(≥6.2 mmol/l) , so my thought is that it could be at some point between phase 1 and phase 2.

The results of the antibodies will be decisive, because according to the results of the latest analyzes indicate that I am in "dysglycemia" for a year and a half, and that is what terrifies me, since I would confirm the diagnosis .... Although also the measures that I haveTake with the glucometer when I arrive I understand that they will help to clarify.

Good morning to all and thank you!

@Artfj Studies There are a thousand and everyone is based on statistics.The problem is that they are taken out of context.In these studies they choose specimens and take notes, but they are not 100% effective, they are "trends" of that particular group, all specimens cannot be extrapolated.

In my case, the probability of diabetes was 0.07%, and you see, suddenly comes out and there is no way to measure that predisposition since childhood.It tells you that the causes are stress, viruses, etc.But there is no clear cause or why or not it is born with that predisposition;Why a child is diabetic of 4 brothers, the father was and the paternal grandfather also but the other 3 brothers do not, when they share the same genetic load (case of my non -diabetic partner)

When you capillary with the glucometer, you don't eat your head.The blood glucose changes continuously and is altered by any exogenous factor: stress, concern, joy, viruses, bacteria, sport, relaxation, various hormones ....

Regarding therapies you have to be the time that is needed;I tell you from experience, they are not 4 sessions and voila.If you do not like your psychologist, look for another that really helps you and you notice that you advance.They helped me a lot, it was before being diabetic.I think thanks to them, diabetes faces very well.

You are not diabetic but if you become, leading the lifestyle you lead, little more could you do and again, if you were, nothing happens, as you can see, you live with it.
Do not become obsessed and enjoy life, therapy may come well.Like everyone, go.
All the best.

Good afternoon,

Thanks again for your comments.

@Ruthbia, I have been impressed.Only 0.07% possibilities to develop it ... How did they give you this possibility?

On the other hand, I have received the results - partial - of the analysis;

AC.Langerhans islets (Ica): & lt; 2.0 JDF (it is considered positive if more than 2 JDF units.)
IA -2: 0.2 (reference & lt; 1 negative - & gt; 1 positive)
GAD-64/65K antibodies: & LT;0.1 (reference & lt; 1 negative - & gt; 1 positive)
IAA: Pending

Peptide C: 1.2 ng/ml (range 0.8 - 3.9) (had 104 glucose in this same shoe sample)

I don't know if the IA-2 is normal.Normally when you have nothing at all, the value is & lt;XX, however here it determines 0.2, which is something.I don't know what relevance will have

Nor do I know if the value of the C peptide is normal or is considered low to be fasting, or too low to have 104 glucose at that time.

I wonder then if it could be a prediabetes then corresponding to a DM2 (we still have to wait for the other antibodies)

As you can see, IAA is pending, which they have told me will still have a week.It is seen that others have set them up before planned.

Again, thank you very much for the support received.I really thank you greatly

artfj said:
good afternoon,

Thanks again for your comments.

@Ruthbia, I have been impressed.Only 0.07% possibilities to develop it ... How did they give you this possibility?

On the other hand, I have received the results - partial - of the analysis;

AC.Langerhans islets (Ica): & lt; 2.0 JDF (it is considered positive if more than 2 JDF units.)
IA -2: 0.2 (reference & lt; 1 negative - & gt; 1 positive)
GAD-64/65K antibodies: & LT;0.1 (reference & lt; 1 negative - & gt; 1 positive)
IAA: Pending

Peptide C: 1.2 ng/ml (range 0.8 - 3.9) (had 104 glucose in this same shoe sample)

I don't know if the IA-2 is normal.Normally when you have nothing at all, the value is & lt;XX, however here it determines 0.2, which is something.I don't know what relevance will have

Nor do I know if the value of the C peptide is normal or is considered low to be fasting, or too low to have 104 glucose at that time.

I wonder then if it could be a prediabetes then corresponding to a DM2 (we still have to wait for the other antibodies)

As you can see, IAA is pending, which they have told me will still have a week.It is seen that others have set them up before planned.

Again, thank you very much for the support received.I really thank you greatly

Well, no diabetic, but hypochondriac ... a little ...

@artfj ehnorabuena!You are definitely not diabetic of any kind.Fasting glucose is perfect too.

Statistics says that if you don't have any antecedent of type 1 diabetes and type 2 in any branch of your family, 7 out of 100 people can become type 1 diabetics. There I enter me.I am the only one in the family by both parties and in several generations.Mine coons and thrombosis is cool;)

Live life and forget about diabetes!

You are a hypochondriaco friend, I recommend a psychologist are very good and you will take away those fears, today it is diabetes tomorrow will be something else

Forget about diabetes and live and enjoy every day you wake up.This day, it will not be repeated again.

That said, the Lada appeared at 63, an active athlete for 40 years, 18 marathons, more than 120,000 km.by bike, mountaineering, etc.etc., supercuity and .... well, nothing, that touches you and to live with it the best thing you can.I took the big scare when after preparing myself and doing for the umpteenth time the Covadonga Lagos cyclors of 120 km .... at the 2 days I had an appointment with the header, it makes me a capillary because I told himHe was very thirsty, desire to eat and was constantly urinating (let's go the 3 books that I did not know) and gives more than 600 glucose.Come on, my time had not arrived, but it is the time I have been closer.It is little useless, if you get to touch you then as the others: accept it, take care, know your body and follow the recommendations that specialists indicate.

If it serves as an encouragement, I continue to train daily and the weeks demanding routes of more than 100 km by bike.Now I am with slow insulin 15U and fast at each meal (3 + 3 + 2.5) and happier than a partridge.Of course, diabetes is always in your mind.

Come, for now and with respect to glucose you are like a champion.

Good night to all,

I write to update that they finally sent me the remaining antibody analysis that was missing and is negative (anti - iaa)

I have also received the glucometer, and as expected, I will have already made 30 measures in 2 days.
The variability of the result is quite desperate.At the same time it measures 135, 112 and 110.
I am thinking of buying a freestyle 3, although I no longer know if you are too much.

What I have been able to confirm is that I am about 100 on an empty stomach and how the latest laboratory analysis have been indicating.What mosques me is the post-prondial level;In a meal of the most rich in protein with a bit of fiber and a little hydrates, it rises to an average of 140 (I say half because very different values ​​that give approximately that average) come out, which if I am not mistaken, is theLimit in overload to be considered prediabetes when the intolerance tests are done, right?I would like to know if this is going to assume that indeed before an overload test it has a fat spicy.
In addition, as I can see, glucometers measure less than in laboratories, which is quite little encouraging.

I have relaxed a little, but on the other hand I think that with the socks I have, before an overload I will surely not tolerate it, which I do not know what consequences it has.The more I approach, the more fear I see that I clearly have signs of prediabets.

I have asked for an appointment with the endocrine again but it doesn't give me soon.I am looking for another to see what I think I should do.

By the way, I am aware that my comments have a high load of anxiety, but I am so sorry, I express it and I hope not to bother anyone.

I thank you very much and I hope you have a good night!

@Artfj, glucometers can have up to 15% error, so in such limit cases they do not serve for diagnosis.
Wait for the tests, but with peace of mind, because if you are something with a diet you can correct you perfectly.If you have left negative the antibodies will not be autoimmune.
And here we are many, with many years of diabetes and without complications.

artfj said:
good night to all,

I write to update that they finally sent me the remaining antibody analysis that was missing and is negative (anti - iaa)

I have also received the glucometer, and as expected, I will have already made 30 measures in 2 days.
The variability of the result is quite desperate.At the same time it measures 135, 112 and 110.
I am thinking of buying a freestyle 3, although I no longer know if you are too much.

What I have been able to confirm is that I am about 100 on an empty stomach and how the latest laboratory analysis have been indicating.What mosques me is the post-prondial level;In a meal of the most rich in protein with a bit of fiber and a little hydrates, it rises to an average of 140 (I say half because very different values ​​that give approximately that average) come out, which if I am not mistaken, is theLimit in overload to be considered prediabetes when the intolerance tests are done, right?I would like to know if this is going to assume that indeed before an overload test it has a fat spicy.
In addition, as I can see, glucometers measure less than in laboratories, which is quite little encouraging.

I have relaxed a little, but on the other hand I think that with the socks I have, before an overload I will surely not tolerate it, which I do not know what consequences it has.The more I approach, the more fear I see that I clearly have signs of prediabets.

I have asked for an appointment with the endocrine again but it doesn't give me soon.I am looking for another to see what I think I should do.

By the way, I am aware that my comments have a high load of anxiety, but I am so sorry, I express it and I hope not to bother anyone.

I thank you very much and I hope you have a good night!

Good morning.
Really that where you must make an appointment is in a psychologist to help you relax that head.
It is a shame what you are eating coconut and suffering without having any real problems ...

You have no diabetes, do not insist.