You can be diabetic without taking medicine.

Hello everyone,

My question is: can I have diabetes without taking medicine and my glycosylated hemoglobin will always be 4 or 5?

What happened is that in October 2021 I went to the hospital for a hypertension crisis, at that time my cholesterol, triglyceride and glucose values ​​came out high and with that single high glucose figure they declared me diabetic.

I took 6 months metformin, then they took it away because many times my sugar was very low, I gone down, I exercise and I changed my diet, but many times as normal, my fasting sugar always goes below 100, my glycosylated hemoglobin alwaysbetween 4 and 5.

It is worth mentioning that only with a bad figure I was diagnosed, I always live with the uncertainty of having it, sometimes I measure my 2HR sugar after eating and always goes below 140.

Taking care makes me feel good, but I live with uncertainty, thank you, greetings.

Hi @iveth_a, if the analyzes did not do them on an empty stomach, something tall could go out and be normal
If you now have normal analytics, then you are fine, do not give you more turns.
That glycosilada is perfect.

You are perfect, that is not diabetes.

Isabelbota said:
you are perfect, that is not diabetes.

Actually?

My husband and my family tell me the same thing, but I find it hard to believe it, I live taking care of me, but sometimes I stress a lot, I live in Holland and dr.He told me that by protocol in Holland I am already diabetics and because they are not going to get me out.

Here in Spain, at least they asked me two values ​​above 126, but of course when I am in another country it works differently there

Iveth_a said:

Isabelbota said:
you are perfect, that is not diabetes.

Actually?

My husband and my family tell me the same thing, but I find it hard to believe it, I live taking care of me, but sometimes I stress a lot, I live in Holland and dr.He told me that by protocol in Holland I am already diabetics and because they are not going to get me out.

No diabetic has glycosylated between 4 and 5 without medication (and would almost say that neither with medication).It is absurd to diagnose for a timely value with those glycosilada.
Anyway I sign up for the "diabetes" of Holland.Results between 4 and 5 without medication?Any forum would change.
So stop worrying and enjoys life, which always makes us difficult moments, but this situation is not.

nila said:
here in Spain, at least they asked me two values ​​above 126, but of course when I am in another country it works there different

The time of that value I was not fasting and all my levels were high and I already left the hospital with the diagnosis of diabetes.

Wow, I believed that diseases were universal !!

Andrespmat said:
go, I believed that diseases were universal !!

Hehehe ... and they are!
But for a Dutch protocol I am already diabetics, when they gave me that answer first I got angry, then I got a little, I do not deny it and then assumed myself as such, but then I doubt., Greetings.

@iveth_a with that protocol in Holland you will be all diabetic, if with four glycosylated sois diabetics, in Holland the health is very bad

Andrespmat said:
@iveth_a with that protocol in Holland you will be all diabetics, if with four glycosilad

Terrible and expensive!

nila said:
here in Spain, at least they asked me two values ​​above 126, but of course when I am in another country it works there different

True, you must have two values ​​above 126 for diabetes diagnosis

iveth_a said:
hello everyone,

My question is: can I have diabetis without taking medicine and my glycosylated hemoglobin will always be 4 or 5?What happened is that in October 2021 I went to the hospital for a hypertension crisis, at that time my cholesterol, triglyceride and glucose values ​​came out high and with that single high glucose figure they declared me diabetic, I took 6 months MetroforminaThen they took it away because many times my sugar was very low, I gone down, I exercise and I changed my diet, but many times as normal, my fasting sugar always goes below 100, my glycosylated hemoglobin always between 4 and 5It is worth mentioning that only with a bad figure I was diagnosed, I always live with the uncertainty of having it, sometimes I measure my sugar 2Hr after eating and always goes below 140. Taking care makes me feel good, but I live with uncertainty, thank you, greetings.

No, you are not diabetic

The Holland thing (and is not the only country) demonstrates one thing, the criteria to diagnose diabetes are not universalized, and in some countries they are more strict than others, and this connects what I commented in other posts in which some disagreed andUntil almost respecting respect, because now it seems that according to which country you are diabetic or not ... I fear all this diabetes is not yet completely clarified, it is like prediabetes, there are those who say it does not exist, there areWho says yes, and there are those who say it is reversed, there are even those who say you can reverse some type 2 cases, it is what science has, that new things are discovered over time and previous errors are resolved, but when there is no unitOf criteria to think, for example the OCU I do not recommend dealing with pills of prediabetes, but diet and exercise, and there are doctors who recipe them, just by saying this reality until it gets angry.Well, he hears that he gets angry with the OCU.

In Spain to be diabetic they are not 2 values, that will be your head doctor who paints not to be very good.
Together with the fasting value, they make you a glycosilada, yes or yes, in addition to glucose curve and if the header is well formed, it will ask you for peptide test C.
And if it is really good, it will refer you to the endocrine for assessment that is the diabetes specialist, since head doctors only have the training received during the degree.

Of course, to me the header, when I gave a high value on an empty stomach, the first thing he asked me was the glycosilada.Then, the endocrine asked me for the rest, along with the antibody values.

ruthbia said:
In Spain to be diabetic they are not 2 values, that will be your head doctor who paints not to be very good.
Together with the fasting value, they make you a glycosilada, yes or yes, in addition to glucose curve and if the header is well formed, it will ask you for peptide test C.
And if it is really good, it will refer you to the endocrine for assessment that is the diabetes specialist, since head doctors only have the training received during the degree.

He also sent me glycosiladPills, and said another glycosylated in three months, I believe it did well and it was prudent, it doesn't seem a bad doctor, I have been able to control it without pills

They asked me two analytics, the first Di Alta and that is when they made me a second to confirm (obviously there they asked me for glycosilada too) and from there all the rest with the endocrine, derivation and blah blah blah.With the first single that I had in 140 or there I was not referred to the endocrine.It must also be understood that there are protocols and that they can change between not already autonomous communities until provinces.To me in the current province the endocrine would not see me anymore if there was no something that would detect the header and derive me, but would see me in the health and nursing center with an empty test every 4 months or more and if Iasked, without strips and with nothing.And instead my endocrine of the previous one gathered me minimum once a year to see how it was going.
Not all are type 1 diabetics and protocols are not the same for everyone.

And for nothing I consider that my head doctor was bad when the diabetes was detected, in fact thanks to the nurse and she who moved to derive and ask me for other analytics because they suspected that it was not type 1 or 2

nila said:
They asked me two analytics, the first di high and that is when they made me a second to confirm (obviously there they asked me the glycosilada too) and from there all the rest withThe endocrine, derivation and blah blah.With the first single that I had in 140 or there I was not referred to the endocrine.It must also be understood that there are protocols and that they can change between not already autonomous communities until provinces.To me in the current province the endocrine would not see me anymore if there was no something that would detect the header and derive me, but would see me in the health and nursing center with an empty test every 4 months or more and if Iasked, without strips and with nothing.And instead my endocrine of the previous one gathered me minimum once a year to see how it was going.
Not all are type 1 diabetics and protocols are not the same for everyone.

And for nothing I consider that my head doctor was bad when the diabetes was detected, in fact thanks to the nurse and her who moved to derive and ask me for other analytics because they suspected that it was not type 1 or 2

Totally agree.
And it is true, here there are people with type 1 and think about type 2 or about prediabetes as if they were type 1, when the treatment and the case is different.They are not the same, and in cases of prediabetes what the OCU says is that they do not recommend pills, but diet and exercise and see if it is controlled, my doctor created the right thing, and for saying this there are people who seem anger, they get angry,We are not all type 1 or a more serious case of type 2.

Joaquillo said:

nila said:
I asked me two analytics, the first di high and that is when they made me a second to confirm (obviously there IThey requested the glycosylated) and from there all the rest with the endocrine, derivation and blah blah blah.With the first single that I had in 140 or there I was not referred to the endocrine.It must also be understood that there are protocols and that they can change between not already autonomous communities until provinces.To me in the current province the endocrine would not see me anymore if there was no something that would detect the header and derive me, but would see me in the health and nursing center with an empty test every 4 months or more and if Iasked, without strips and with nothing.And instead my endocrine of the previous one gathered me minimum once a year to see how it was going.
Not all are type 1 diabetics and protocols are not the same for everyone.

And for nothing I consider that my head doctor was bad when the diabetes was detected, in fact thanks to the nurse and her who moved to derive and ask me for other analytics because they suspected that it was not type 1 or 2

Totally agree.
And it is true, here there are people with type 1 and think about type 2 or about prediabetes as if they were type 1, when the treatment and the case is different.They are not the same, and in cases of prediabetes what the OCU says is that they do not recommend pills, but diet and exercise and see if it is controlled, my doctor created the right thing, and for saying this there are people who seem anger, they get angry,Not all are type 1 or a more serious case of type 2.

Is that this is no longer normal ...
How many times have you already written about the OCU?(That by the way it is the organization of consumers and users, nothing medical, that they speak of a mobile, a mop or now of diabetes. It is not that it is the most reliable opinion about it ...).
No one gets angry because another think.It does despair that it refits to convince everyone someone very new, who is not even diagnosed yet, who does not know howLittle importance of glycosilada or unnecessary medication in many cases.Tips that the vast majority do not confuse us but could give false hope to a rookie.
And what personally puts me of nerves is that you repeat the same.We already know what you think of glycosilada, medication, ocu the opinion of that famous doctor, your non -diabetes, your industrial juices, your white bread ...

This is a forum to contribute.Please repeat the same is not to contribute.You are going to upload the glucose of the nerves that give me every time I read that for the umpteenth time you have once again written the same ...
You are free to write but do not repeat anymore, that you get nothing more than to despair.And I don't think it's the only one.