You can be diabetic without taking medicine.

Isabelbota said:

Joaquillo said:

nila said:
nila said:
I asked me two analytics, the first Di AltaAnd that is when they made me a second to confirm (obviously there they asked me for glycosilada too) and from there all the rest with the endocrine, derivation and blah blah blah.With the first single that I had in 140 or there I was not referred to the endocrine.It must also be understood that there are protocols and that they can change between not already autonomous communities until provinces.To me in the current province the endocrine would not see me anymore if there was no something that would detect the header and derive me, but would see me in the health and nursing center with an empty test every 4 months or more and if Iasked, without strips and with nothing.And instead my endocrine of the previous one gathered me minimum once a year to see how it was going.
Not all are type 1 diabetics and protocols are not the same for everyone.

And for nothing I consider that my head doctor was bad when the diabetes was detected, in fact thanks to the nurse and her who moved to derive and ask me for other analytics because they suspected that it was not type 1 or 2

Totally agree.
And it is true, here there are people with type 1 and think about type 2 or about prediabetes as if they were type 1, when the treatment and the case is different.They are not the same, and in cases of prediabetes what the OCU says is that they do not recommend pills, but diet and exercise and see if it is controlled, my doctor created the right thing, and for saying this there are people who seem anger, they get angry,Not all are type 1 or a more serious case of type 2.

Is that this is no longer normal ...
How many times have you already written about the OCU?(That by the way it is the organization of consumers and users, nothing medical, that they speak of a mobile, a mop or now of diabetes. It is not that it is the most reliable opinion about it ...).
No one gets angry because another think.It does despair that it refits to convince everyone someone very new, who is not even diagnosed yet, who does not know howLittle importance of glycosilada or unnecessary medication in many cases.Tips that the vast majority do not confuse us but could give false hope to a rookie.
And what personally puts me of nerves is that you repeat the same.We already know what you think of glycosilada, medication, ocu the opinion of that famous doctor, your non -diabetes, your industrial juices, your white bread ...

This is a forum to contribute.Please repeat the same is not to contribute.You are going to upload the glucose of the nerves that give me every time I read that for the umpteenth time you have written the same again ... 😂😂😂
You are free to write but do not repeat anymore, that you get nothing more than to despair.And I don't think it's the only one.

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Apart from what I have said fully, the detection method is the same for all DT1 or DT2.High glucose levels and the nurse in consultation did me ketoacidosis, resulting my header doctor sent me to emergency for admission.
In my case DT1 was diagnosed later because with 42 years it is not normal, they made me glyc, peptide C and antibodies days later of my Emergency admission.The first diagnosis was DT2 with metformin and insulin to lower 360mg/dl on an empty stomach.

They did not detect it the same as you, they made me an analytical, the altered glucose came out, a week if I remember well, they repeated it to me.Until that moment neither derivation nor anything, ketoacidosis test did not do me either and they have never done me, they did not detect it with 300, I had 140-150 in an analytics that I did after taking a medication that felt bad and aSecond analytical that gave me fair 126, neither income, nor symptoms nor anything, as I say, I was because the frantol left me sober 3 days, in fact I took absolutely anything, I diet.At 3 months 86 on an empty stomach (I recently saw the analytics), but the glyc in 6.4 or there 😅 and here we are equally 😂😂

Isabelbota said:

Joaquillo said:

nila said:
nila said:
I asked me two analytics, the first Di AltaAnd that is when they made me a second to confirm (obviously there they asked me for glycosilada too) and from there all the rest with the endocrine, derivation and blah blah blah.With the first single that I had in 140 or there I was not referred to the endocrine.It must also be understood that there are protocols and that they can change between not already autonomous communities until provinces.To me in the current province the endocrine would not see me anymore if there was no something that would detect the header and derive me, but would see me in the health and nursing center with an empty test every 4 months or more and if Iasked, without strips and with nothing.And instead my endocrine of the previous one gathered me minimum once a year to see how it was going.
Not all are type 1 diabetics and protocols are not the same for everyone.

And for nothing I consider that my head doctor was bad when the diabetes was detected, in fact thanks to the nurse and her who moved to derive and ask me for other analytics because they suspected that it was not type 1 or 2

Totally agree.
And it is true, here there are people with type 1 and think about type 2 or about prediabetes as if they were type 1, when the treatment and the case is different.They are not the same, and in cases of prediabetes what the OCU says is that they do not recommend pills, but diet and exercise and see if it is controlled, my doctor created the right thing, and for saying this there are people who seem anger, they get angry,Not all are type 1 or a more serious case of type 2.

Is that this is no longer normal ...
How many times have you already written about the OCU?(That by the way it is the organization of consumers and users, nothing medical, that they speak of a mobile, a mop or now of diabetes. It is not that it is the most reliable opinion about it ...).
No one gets angry because another think.It does despair that it refits to convince everyone someone very new, who is not even diagnosed yet, who does not know howLittle importance of glycosilada or unnecessary medication in many cases.Tips that the vast majority do not confuse us but could give false hope to a rookie.
And what personally puts me of nerves is that you repeat the same.We already know what you think of glycosilada, medication, ocu the opinion of that famous doctor, your non -diabetes, your industrial juices, your white bread ...

This is a forum to contribute.Please repeat the same is not to contribute.You are going to upload the glucose of the nerves that give me every time I read that for the umpteenth time you have written the same again ... 😂😂😂
You are free to write but do not repeat anymore, that you get nothing more than to despair.And I don't think it's the only one.

Piecemeal:
1- The OCU I have not said anything more than two or three times, I see here people who repeat much more other things and nothing happens
2-I do not try to convince anyone, I give information that I get and think, to me that they have tried to convince me even to take pills and less bad that I did not.Even giving me diagnoses that neither my doctor has given me and without being doctors.
3-CONTSR Hydrates I already know, everything is learned, and of course I have it controlled, it is what indicates the latest tests I did.
3- Of course there are cases where it is controlled or reversed, call it as you want, without medication, and I am the test, and I found it useful to share this information for those who are in a similar case
4- I have never said to know everything, in fact many people have asked things, others if I have seen speak as if they knew everythingand give personal advice about your life or even psychoanalyze.
5- I am not false hopes to say that certain cases of prediabetes are controlled or reversed without medication and it can be tried, because it has done well for me.
6- About glycosilada etc etc. I refer to what has already been said
7- To me that the occasional forero has repeated the same several times, among them you, and I have not complained and responded with education, if they get the same again and again you do not have any other than send the sameanswer.
8- I have said that it may be prediabetes or not, I have not claimed to have nothing.
9- I let what I think is convenient, and I didn't know that for this you have to be a forero that has been here for a long time.
10- And no, this time I have not repeated the same, because I have referred that type 1 is not the same as the 2 and there are people who seem like to deal with cases of 2 like 1, this was the first time I said it.
It also puts my nerves to have to repeat sometimes answers to people who repeat the same thing, and I will do it as many times as they come out if they skip me with the same.
Greetings.

ruthbia said:
@Isabelbota 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Apart from what I have said fully, the detection method is the same for all DT1 or DT2.High glucose levels and the nurse in consultation did me ketoacidosis, resulting my header doctor sent me to emergency for admission.
In my case DT1 was diagnosed later because with 42 years it is not normal, they made me glyc, peptide C and antibodies days later of my Emergency admission.The first diagnosis was DT2 with metformin and insulin to lower 360mg/dl on an empty stomach.

I was not referring to the detection method, but the diagnosis and the way of controlling it etc, greetings

Isabelbota said:

Joaquillo said:

nila said:
nila said:
I asked me two analytics, the first Di AltaAnd that is when they made me a second to confirm (obviously there they asked me for glycosilada too) and from there all the rest with the endocrine, derivation and blah blah blah.With the first single that I had in 140 or there I was not referred to the endocrine.It must also be understood that there are protocols and that they can change between not already autonomous communities until provinces.To me in the current province the endocrine would not see me anymore if there was no something that would detect the header and derive me, but would see me in the health and nursing center with an empty test every 4 months or more and if Iasked, without strips and with nothing.And instead my endocrine of the previous one gathered me minimum once a year to see how it was going.
Not all are type 1 diabetics and protocols are not the same for everyone.

And for nothing I consider that my head doctor was bad when the diabetes was detected, in fact thanks to the nurse and her who moved to derive and ask me for other analytics because they suspected that it was not type 1 or 2

Totally agree.
And it is true, here there are people with type 1 and think about type 2 or about prediabetes as if they were type 1, when the treatment and the case is different.They are not the same, and in cases of prediabetes what the OCU says is that they do not recommend pills, but diet and exercise and see if it is controlled, my doctor created the right thing, and for saying this there are people who seem anger, they get angry,Not all are type 1 or a more serious case of type 2.

Is that this is no longer normal ...
How many times have you already written about the OCU?(That by the way it is the organization of consumers and users, nothing medical, that they speak of a mobile, a mop or now of diabetes. It is not that it is the most reliable opinion about it ...).
No one gets angry because another think.It does despair that it refits to convince everyone someone very new, who is not even diagnosed yet, who does not know howLittle importance of glycosilada or unnecessary medication in many cases.Tips that the vast majority do not confuse us but could give false hope to a rookie.
And what personally puts me of nerves is that you repeat the same.We already know what you think of glycosilada, medication, ocu the opinion of that famous doctor, your non -diabetes, your industrial juices, your white bread ...

This is a forum to contribute.Please repeat the same is not to contribute.You are going to upload the glucose of the nerves that give me every time I read that for the umpteenth time you have written the same again ... 😂😂😂
You are free to write but do not repeat anymore, that you get nothing more than to despair.And I don't think it's the only one.

I beg two things, this writing is very funny and fun to get funny and laugh, I will not put myself at that level, I beg seriously and respect, nor have I put myself at the level of who has tried to miss respect or almost insult.
One may be wrong or not in your opinion, and nobody has truth one hundred percent and more in something that neither doctors agree neither all countries themselves nor every case is the same is the same is the same is
But when the forms are missing, the mockery is resorted to or the respect is offended or lacking only several things:
1- Lose your reason
2- Make the person feel bad according to their sensitivity
3- Achieve the opposite effect

And believe me, I have the capacity and ability to be very mocking, ironic and funny, but I will not.It is not my way of acting.

And yes, it is a forum to contribute, not to offend anyone, make fun or laugh, if you do not agree on something or do not interest you because you give your opinion or do not answer and that's it.

Isabelbota said:

Joaquillo said:

nila said:
nila said:
I asked me two analytics, the first Di AltaAnd that is when they made me a second to confirm (obviously there they asked me for glycosilada too) and from there all the rest with the endocrine, derivation and blah blah blah.With the first single that I had in 140 or there I was not referred to the endocrine.It must also be understood that there are protocols and that they can change between not already autonomous communities until provinces.To me in the current province the endocrine would not see me anymore if there was no something that would detect the header and derive me, but would see me in the health and nursing center with an empty test every 4 months or more and if Iasked, without strips and with nothing.And instead my endocrine of the previous one gathered me minimum once a year to see how it was going.
Not all are type 1 diabetics and protocols are not the same for everyone.

And for nothing I consider that my head doctor was bad when the diabetes was detected, in fact thanks to the nurse and her who moved to derive and ask me for other analytics because they suspected that it was not type 1 or 2

Totally agree.
And it is true, here there are people with type 1 and think about type 2 or about prediabetes as if they were type 1, when the treatment and the case is different.They are not the same, and in cases of prediabetes what the OCU says is that they do not recommend pills, but diet and exercise and see if it is controlled, my doctor created the right thing, and for saying this there are people who seem anger, they get angry,Not all are type 1 or a more serious case of type 2.

Is that this is no longer normal ...
How many times have you already written about the OCU?(That by the way it is the organization of consumers and users, nothing medical, that they speak of a mobile, a mop or now of diabetes. It is not that it is the most reliable opinion about it ...).
No one gets angry because another think.It does despair that it refits to convince everyone someone very new, who is not even diagnosed yet, who does not know howLittle importance of glycosilada or unnecessary medication in many cases.Tips that the vast majority do not confuse us but could give false hope to a rookie.
And what personally puts me of nerves is that you repeat the same.We already know what you think of glycosilada, medication, ocu the opinion of that famous doctor, your non -diabetes, your industrial juices, your white bread ...

This is a forum to contribute.Please repeat the same is not to contribute.You are going to upload the glucose of the nerves that give me every time I read that for the umpteenth time you have written the same again ... 😂😂😂
You are free to write but do not repeat anymore, that you get nothing more than to despair.And I don't think it's the only one.

And for you to see the case I do when they ask me not to repeat something in a mocking tone, without respect etc, I repeat it again and leave a link, the OCU is against overmedication, and says that prediabetes is not a disease,And they are being diagnosed as patients and medical, and it is against, and says that it is a risk factor, not a disease, and that if you do not revert it, it can take you to diabetes but you have to try to correct it with diet and exercise and even thiscampaigning for this, I leave the info, then you are mocking the opinion of the OCU rather, you can know more than they and have health advisors etc.
In fact, I will create a post to contribute and help people who are the case of prediabetes.
Link

Joaquillo said:

Isabelbota said:

Joaquillo said:
Joaquillo said:

They asked me two analytics, the first Di Alta and that is when they made me a second to confirm (obviously there they asked me for glycosilada too) and from there all the rest with the endocrine, derivation and blah blah blah blah.With the first single that I had in 140 or there I was not referred to the endocrine.It must also be understood that there are protocols and that they can change between not already autonomous communities until provinces.To me in the current province the endocrine would not see me anymore if there was no something that would detect the header and derive me, but would see me in the health and nursing center with an empty test every 4 months or more and if Iasked, without strips and with nothing.And instead my endocrine of the previous one gathered me minimum once a year to see how it was going.
Not all are type 1 diabetics and protocols are not the same for everyone.

And for nothing I consider that my head doctor was bad when the diabetes was detected, in fact thanks to the nurse and her who moved to derive and ask me for other analytics because they suspected that it was not type 1 or 2

Totally agree.
And it is true, here there are people with type 1 and think about type 2 or about prediabetes as if they were type 1, when the treatment and the case is different.They are not the same, and in cases of prediabetes what the OCU says is that they do not recommend pills, but diet and exercise and see if it is controlled, my doctor created the right thing, and for saying this there are people who seem anger, they get angry,Not all are type 1 or a more serious case of type 2.

Is that this is no longer normal ...
How many times have you already written about the OCU?(That by the way it is the organization of consumers and users, nothing medical, that they speak of a mobile, a mop or now of diabetes. It is not that it is the most reliable opinion about it ...).
No one gets angry because another think.It does despair that it refits to convince everyone someone very new, who is not even diagnosed yet, who does not know howLittle importance of glycosilada or unnecessary medication in many cases.Tips that the vast majority do not confuse us but could give false hope to a rookie.
And what personally puts me of nerves is that you repeat the same.We already know what you think of glycosilada, medication, ocu the opinion of that famous doctor, your non -diabetes, your industrial juices, your white bread ...

This is a forum to contribute.Please repeat the same is not to contribute.You are going to upload the glucose of the nerves that give me every time I read that for the umpteenth time you have written the same again ... 😂😂😂
You are free to write but do not repeat anymore, that you get nothing more than to despair.And I don't think it's the only one.

I beg two things, this writing is very funny and fun to get funny and laugh, I will not put myself at that level, I beg seriously and respect, nor have I put myself at the level of who has tried to miss respect or almost insult.
One may be wrong or not in your opinion, and nobody has truth one hundred percent and more in something that neither doctors agree neither all countries themselves nor every case is the same is the same is the same is
But when the forms are missing, the mockery is resorted to or the respect is offended or lacking only several things:
1- Lose your reason
2- Make the person feel bad according to their sensitivity
3- Achieve the opposite effect

It is the last time, that I write to you.
Please read what I have written to you, I have asked you not toYou repeat the same, and also please.I have told you that any opinion is respectable but the insistence and repetition tired.And I told you that you despair because it is true.For me it is not funny, I put the laughs for removing iron from the matter, but I repeat you, it is not funny that every time I enter the forum I find the same.I quiet and period.
But I have already seen that they don't care what they tell you.Because I have not been the only one to give you a touch and everything slips (to all this after informing you about food, diabetes and other things you have asked).
So nothing, that you do well.I am already clear about what I have to do.

Isabelbota said:

Joaquillo said:

isabelbota said:
isabelbota said:

Joaquillo said:
Joaquillo said:
Joaquillo said:
Joaquillo said:

nila said:
nila said:
nila said:
nila said:
nila said:
nila said:
nila said:
nila said:
I asked me two analytics, the first high di and that is when they made me a second to confirm (obviously there they asked me the glycosilada too) and from there all the wholerest with the endocrine, derivation and blah blah.With the first single that I had in 140 or there I was not referred to the endocrine.It must also be understood that there are protocols and that they can change between not already autonomous communities until provinces.To me in the current province the endocrine would not see me anymore if there was no something that would detect the header and derive me, but would see me in the health and nursing center with an empty test every 4 months or more and if Iasked, without strips and with nothing.And instead my endocrine of the previous one gathered me minimum once a year to see how it was going.
Not all are type 1 diabetics and protocols are not the same for everyone.

And for nothing I consider that my head doctor was bad when the diabetes was detected, in fact thanks to the nurse and her who moved to derive and ask me for other analytics because they suspected that it was not type 1 or 2

Totally agree.
And it is true, here there are people with type 1 and think about type 2 or about prediabetes as if they were type 1, when the treatment and the case is different.They are not the same, and in cases of prediabetes what the OCU says is that they do not recommend pills, but diet and exercise and see if it is controlled, my doctor created the right thing, and for saying this there are people who seem anger, they get angry,Not all are type 1 or a more serious case of type 2.

Is that this is no longer normal ...
How many times have you already written about the OCU?(That by the way it is the organization of consumers and users, nothing medical, that they speak of a mobile, a mop or now of diabetes. It is not that it is the most reliable opinion about it ...).
No one gets angry because another think.It does despair that it refits to convince everyone someone very new, who is not even diagnosed yet, who does not know howLittle importance of glycosilada or unnecessary medication in many cases.Tips that the vast majority do not confuse us but could give false hope to a rookie.
And what personally puts me of nerves is that you repeat the same.We already know what you think of glycosilada, medication, ocu the opinion of that famous doctor, your non -diabetes, your industrial juices, your white bread ...

This is a forum to contribute.Please repeat the same is not to contribute.You are going to upload the glucose of the nerves that give me every time I read that for the umpteenth time you have written the same again ... 😂😂😂
You are free to write but do not repeat anymore, that you get nothing more than to despair.And I don't think it's the only one.

I beg two things, this writing is very funny and fun to get funny and laugh, I will not put myself at that level, I beg seriously and respect, nor have I put myself at the level of who has tried to miss respect or almost insult.
One may be wrong or not in your opinion, and nobody has truth one hundred percent and more in something that neither doctors agree neither all countries themselves nor every case is the same is the same is the same is
But when the forms are missing, the mockery is resorted to or the respect is offended or lacking only several things:
1- Lose your reason
2- Make the person feel bad according to their sensitivity
3- Achieve the opposite effect

It is the last time, that I write to you.
Please read wellWhat I have written to you, I have asked you not to repeat the same, and also please.I have told you that any opinion is respectable but the insistence and repetition tired.And I told you that you despair because it is true.For me it is not funny, I put the laughs for removing iron from the matter, but I repeat you, it is not funny that every time I enter the forum I find the same.I quiet and period.
But I have already seen that they don't care what they tell you.Because I have not been the only one to give you a touch and everything slips (to all this after informing you about food, diabetes and other things you have asked).
So nothing, that you do well.I am already clear about what I have to do.

I refer to what has already been said because you have repeated again, and you are not going to get me to repeat again.
Yes, and I thank you, but what did you do or give the right to use mockery etc.
Thanks and luck in everything

nila said:
They did not detect it the same as you, they made me an analytical, the altered glucose came out, a week if I remember well, they repeated it to me.Until that moment neither derivation nor anything, ketoacidosis test did not do me either and they have never done me, they did not detect it with 300, I had 140-150 in an analytics that I did after taking a medication that felt bad and aSecond analytical that gave me fair 126, neither income, nor symptoms nor anything, as I say, I was because the frantol left me sober 3 days, in fact I took absolutely anything, I diet.At 3 months 86 on an empty stomach (I recently saw the analytics), but the glyc

Uff what stress!
And do you live in "Diabetcos Bag" of the medical system too?Nor do I take medicine, I take care of my diet, exercise, my glucose about 4 times a week on an empty stomach and never leaves over 100 and in a year and a half non -glycosylated hemoglobin has never gone from a 5.3, I already accepted myself as a diabetics, But sometimes uncertainty worries me, greetings and thanks for answering.

Iveth_a said:

I did not detect it the same as you, they made me an analytical, I got the altered glucose, to theWeek if I remember well, they repeated it.Until that moment neither derivation nor anything, ketoacidosis test did not do me either and they have never done me, they did not detect it with 300, I had 140-150 in an analytics that I did after taking a medication that felt bad and aSecond analytical that gave me fair 126, neither income, nor symptoms nor anything, as I say, I was because the frantol left me sober 3 days, in fact I took absolutely anything, I diet.At 3 months 86 on an empty stomach (I recently saw the analytics), but the glyc

Uff what stress!
And do you live in "Diabetcos Bag" of the medical system too?Nor do I take medicine, I take care of my diet, exercise, my glucose about 4 times a week on an empty stomach and never leaves over 100 and in a year and a half non -glycosylated hemoglobin has never gone from a 5.3, I already accepted myself as a diabetics, But sometimes uncertainty worries me, greetings and thanks for answering.

You are not a quiet diabetic, I think that neither prediabetes (which would be just a risk factor), but if you want to confirm it later with new tests.

According to someone here I would not be diabetic, because the top I have given on an empty stomach has been a fabulous 112.

My great glycosiladas ... the oldest I think has been 5.9.

It's good that I just discovered that I have no disease, hey.

However, I have some ease to exceed 200 with certain foods and then other times I am so pichi ... it is what the 2+2 motto has always 4.

anif said:
according to someone here would not be diabetic, because the top I have given on an empty stomach has been a fabulous 112.

My great glycosiladas ... the oldest I think has been 5.9.

It's good that I just discovered that I have no disease, hey.

However, I have a certain ease to exceed 200 with certain foods and then other times I am so pichi ... it is what the 2+2 motto has not always 4.

Perhaps you are a case of prediabetes with high risk of ending in type 2 diabetes, or perhaps it is already type 2 diabetes, you have not mentioned if you are medical, and more data or tests and follow -up are needed to confirm I think.

Because if you are simply medical, you are a case of controlled diabetes with medication.
If someone gives values ​​of 112 on an empty stomach or without taking medication can be prediabetes, a risk factor, no disease.

That they have already told you in some thread @joaquillo if you are not diabetic, I do not know what obsession you have to be in the forum and try to "disassemble" every diabetic that is here.

I know very well what I have.I know very well what treatment and what habits are beneficial to me and I find everything you are affirming in numerous threads talking about your personal experience.

Moreover, you remind me of a certain troll that I was going through here a while ago and, seriously, that I do not conceive what twisted benefit you get from all this.

anif said:
that have already told you in some thread @joaquillo if you are not diabetic, I do not know what obsession you have to be in the forum and try to "disassemble" every diabetichere.

I know very well what I have.I know very well what treatment and what habits are beneficial to me and I find everything you are affirming in numerous threads talking about your personal experience.

Moreover, you remind me of a certain troll that was passed here for a while ago and, seriously, I do not conceive what twisted benefit you get from all this.

Another that repeats the same to lead me to repeat the same.
I am opinion and point
Are you going to the OCU and you complain ok?That also advises it.
Dangerous seems to me to prescribe pills and treat those who are not yet, as the OCU and many other doctors etc.
From my experience I speak when I want, because it is true and point, and you will not be you who tells me what I have or not to talk, that is typical of Trolls.

Come by.

Oh and why I am here I have already said it, but people like you make me have to repeat, I get information for my healthConfirm mine within 3 months.
And I will tell you clearer: I will talk where I get the real one and when I feel like it.