Differences between blood test and freestyle sensor

ricki21 said:
@silviagrz: with the theme of cholesterol it turns out that long -evolution type 1 diabetics are high -risk patients when it comes to cardiovascular problems.They demand the same cholesterol values ​​as a person who has already had a heart attack or an stroke.
I would not be surprised if we are candidates to put the new anti -cholesterol injections that have come out this week

Is that the two injections a year?Well, I almost signed ... I am from the daily pill (in my case since before the DM because it is family hypercholestemia) as far as I do not say, I have been taking it about 20 years ...

silviagrz said:
@salad are not all ... but all reason with some ...
And in the end everything is reduced in figures, which I understand ... because the better, the more likely to go well and have more long -term health ...
The other day they told me that I had the high LDL.I asked how much and I really were within the range of "normal" people (not diabetic. "Now it turnsI understand, it is health, but we are not robots either.

UffThat is another melon, @silviagrz.The fateful statins.There are several threads in this forum on it.There is no total consensus on the relationship of cholesterol levels and cardiovascular risk.I believe that we have more risk of cardiovascular disease through sugar, and that we must focus our efforts on keeping it at bay.

Isabelbota said:
@hfmbbcx
I do not understand one thing.You say that fast 2-4-2 ...
Don't click on what you eat?Because in my case breakfast is usually the same, but up there depending on whether I am higher or lower when breakfast.
And already food and dinner depends totally on what eate.
It is also important when to click.At breakfast a while before, but at food or dinner I sulked me before insured hypoglycemia, because it takes me a lot to raise the food.And as coma fats sometimes up to 4/6 hours after eating.
But the first thing is, as they tell you, that you get less fast because you obviously have plenty.Nothing happens if you are a little high until you find the ideal adjustment.You can always correct yourself a posteriori but now what you have to solve is the problem of hypos.
If before you it may be what you say, any digestion problem, but you will have to see how to adapt.
Regarding the sensor, because it will have left you bad but in general they measure me well, with delay, but knowing it is to calculate.

To the reference of rapid insulin "2 - 4 - 2" are the doses that use of base at this time.Of course, if lunch time is in 250 (since my correction factor is 1 unit = 35) I add to those 4 units 3 more to correct.Or otherwise ... if I reach 50 to lunch I would only put 2 units.
Regarding when to put it ... if I am high, I put it on I wait 15 min and how.If I'm low, as and then I wear it.
I've been with a very low fat diet for years.No sausages, no pastry shop, no alcohol, no carbohydrate drinks ... and although I don't weight meals like the first years (I serve me by eye) I do not think I fail for much in the rations I take.

A year ago my insulin dose were 12 - 14 and 22 and 22.
Possibly some stomach problem, or to know that, it is the cause to not digest food in a normal time and insulin acts before digestion.
But of course, we already know that in this world there is no rule of three to say: if you eat 10, you put 10 and at 2 hours you are in 100. In my case today at 2 hours I am in 30, tomorrow at 2hours in 250.

Returning to the bottom of the reason for the discussion "Differences between the blood test and the freestyle sensor" ... I have very sudden sugar falls and in my case the sensor (which goes 15 minutes of delay with respect to the blood test) When it abuses me it is going down it's too late.

Every time I compared the sensor data with the blood differs from 15 to 40 points below.On sensor's occasions I am reading 90 and in blood 50.

ruthbia said:
you have basal insulin, give you the dowers because you are on honeymoon and insulin is too much.Lower to 8 and test, you should be between meals between 90-100;And so on until you have hypoglycemia.That same happened in the first months after the debut.

I did analytics on Tuesday:
Diabox: 118mg/dl
LABORATORY ANALYTICS 115MG/DL (with the consequent *)
LibreLink: 115 approx, as I see the curve.
Freestyle reader: 125mg/dl

This sensor is going relatively well.But I am clear, an application without calibration does not work.

Good @ruthbia Thank you.
I've been with diabetes for 15 years.The first 5 was as if it were not diabetic, so much that the endocrine derived the monitoring of the header.

In my current case even if I play with the doses and there are even meals in which I do not wear fast insulin (for despair to overcome) I do not control it, it is possible that there is a digestive problem or even the type of insulin.
Not every day I am low ... there are days to eating and clicking the same not low of 250 and from one day to another not a 70.

Logically, if I take the history of the tests I can say: "Here I gave me a downturn ... I should have put 2 less. Here I am high ... I should have put 2 more. But at the time, if yesterday I ate10 And I put on 10 and at 2 hours I was in 100, today I do the same and should be as yesterday.

I have always had a very good control.I control the doses and rations well.But now I've been desperate for 6 months.

@HFMBBCX: Look at the Abbott video that explains the "Decalage" between capillary and sensor.The sensor, when glucose varies, goes about 10 minutes behind in measurements
Link

Reading what you talk about the endocrine I can give thanks.Diabetes Mel takes the educator in diabetes, in his consultations we talk about everything and make adjustments in the bolus calculator.I have type 1 diabetes and it is the complicated, we have tried everything to stabilize it but we do not get it, I am in a glycosilada 7.3 came from an 8 not long ago.Everything affects me.Anyway to what was going, one night I was wrong of insulin and instead of 29 units of threeiba I click 29 units of Fiasp, I automatically went to the hospital and there they stabilized me, and as they saw that I carried the freestyle every time they mediateThe sugar made my mobile pass to check, and the results were the same.There are patches that work perfectly and there are not so much, why I don't know and should review it.
I know all ways I look more than in number in the trend that is not mistaken and make decisions based on the trend, and if I have doubts a click on the finger and check it in blood.
Like you they have been wrong with a diagnosis, I understand that you are type 1. And the reality is that you are type 2 and your body still generates insulin that together with the one you click is too much.

Great @ricki21 The explanation, your example should see it many people, so sometimes when the glucose levels are criticized so much that do not coincide is that many do not find out about the sensor's functioning, removing errors by defective sensors, (which sometimes also alsohappens)

hfmbbcx said:
very good to all.
I am quite pissed off and demoralized for the care of my doctor "Specialist Endocrinology".
I've been using the freestyle sensor for a few years and this is my experience in recent months ...

Results:
By sensor 86 - 45 blood
By sensor 59 - 37 blood
By sensor 75 - 54 blood
By sensor 45 - the blood

The blood difference is always +20 down.

These results are daily.The doctor only reviews the graph that gives the sensor results and therefore diagnostic: "Great glymatical control with some mild hypoglycemia" "is recommended balanced diet and exercise"

The reality is:
& GT;A huge amount of hypoglycemia daily (up to 52 descents in a week).
& GT; Sudden Blood Sugar Changes (250 to 50 in less than 1 hour).
& GT; Very low insulin dose (2-4-2 quickly and 10 slowly).

I have explained the same thing to him and in front of him I have shown it ... I have done the sensor test (127) and then by blood (86) .... 41 points of difference.

It does not give me any guidelines to follow and everything summarizes with good sugar control since I am in an average of 118 ... of course!I already understand it .... 216 Hyperglycemia + 20 hypoblucemia = 236 /2 = ((118)) I'm a motherfucker !!

Are anyone having similar problems with sensors?

Thank you!

Hello.The free at first were doing very well, but now they mark quite different from the capillary, what you tell seems normal to me.

One thing you can do is catch a pirate app for the mobile, which normally allow you to change the calibration (the officer does not allow you any of that).You establish a reference to the beginning, with about 3 measures (start several hours after the sensor is activated) and correct and that's it.

@HFMBBCX, my daughter is the opposite, always measures 20 or 30 units of less the sensor.
It doesn't matter what value it is directed.
So the glucosilada rose him half a point to trust the sensor.
Abbot would have to have an app that allowed to calibrate and customize controls.
If not, we have to install another that allows it.A GUADE.

Hello. I read and learn even though I don't participate much
In my case, the sensor's difference with the capillaadequate word) for example, if in sensor I have 170 in blood I will have about 220. I have never observed more than 50 of difference, maybe I do not let the glucose increase more. However and if I do more tests in a row, I see thatThey are approaching little difference, but they never equal.Blood is 100 or 120 what gives me time to take something. As a few decis on the endocrine, I have several, a lady who already retired and "rewits me" sometimes but learned a lot from her and I am grateful to her.However, I had some somewhat "passages."
Greetings.

To me the sensor usually marks 10 or 15 higher than the capillary and Diabox nails it, so I usually fio de Diabox, of course.
Anyway, I don't fit a capillary and I always get much closer to what Diabox q marks of the free.
The calibration is fundamental, I do not know why they do not put it, they say that it does not need calibration, that it already brings it, and it is seen that they will see it for all the complaints that there is ...

hfmbbcx said:
very good to all.
I am quite pissed off and demoralized for the care of my doctor "Specialist Endocrinology".
I've been using the freestyle sensor for a few years and this is my experience in recent months ...

Results:
By sensor 86 - 45 blood
By sensor 59 - 37 blood
By sensor 75 - 54 blood
By sensor 45 - the blood

The blood difference is always +20 down.

These results are daily.The doctor only reviews the graph that gives the sensor results and therefore diagnostic: "Great glymatical control with some mild hypoglycemia" "is recommended balanced diet and exercise"

The reality is:
& GT;A huge amount of hypoglycemia daily (up to 52 descents in a week).
& GT; Sudden Blood Sugar Changes (250 to 50 in less than 1 hour).
& GT; Very low insulin dose (2-4-2 quickly and 10 slowly).

I have explained the same thing to him and in front of him I have shown it ... I have done the sensor test (127) and then by blood (86) .... 41 points of difference.

It does not give me any guidelines to follow and everything summarizes with good sugar control since I am in an average of 118 ... of course!I already understand it .... 216 Hyperglycemia + 20 hypoblucemia = 236 /2 = ((118)) I'm a motherfucker !!

Are anyone having similar problems with sensors?

Thank you!

Hello!!!I am also having many problems with the sensor but that happens backwards.I skip the alarm that I have 70 I look at my blood and I have 150 ... and so many times .... especially at night.There are weeks that I do not sleep anything.
According to the sensor, I have 6 glyd and cdo I have gone to work for 15 days, I have 7.2.I have never had it so high.
When the alarm sounds, I always have to do it in blood because I can't trust anything.
I am mentally exhausted from this.
My doctor does not care about anything, he sees me in 5 min every 8 months he says that 7 is very good and that he continues.
The only thing that matters is how many times I look at the values ​​a day .... Of course ... if they give me incorrect values ​​... well encouragement ... and be careful with the hypos ... I would also lower the slow... It is better to have a slightly high glucose.

@peace
If you try not to rely on the sensor when you sleep, that is, sleep on the other side, you will avoid more than 90% of false hypos, which occur because by crushing the sensor does not reach interstitial liquid and you can rest.

@Paz: I have come to disconnect the alarms at night to be able to sleep quietly for the theme of the sensor crushing (this usually happens to me especially the first night after the sensor change).
If you want to improve your glycosylated hemoglobin, I would try an app like Diabox that allows you to adjust your hair algorithm

Hello.
Well, sometimes I sleep on the sensor and I never sound the alarm for that. It is curious, I always have the capillary 20 or 30 above the sensor and in this last one it seems that they are equal. As I said again, my endocrine advises me to haveThe glycosilada around 7 but that it does not rise more than 7.5, says that this is fine.It is what he says.

pot said:
hello.
Well, sometimes I sleep on the sensor and I never sound the alarm for that. It is curious, I always have the capillary 20 or 30 above the sensor and in this last one it seems that they are equal. As I said again, my endocrine advises me to haveThe glycosilada around 7 but that it does not rise more than 7.5, says that this is fine.It is what he says.

Not at all over ... with more than 6, long -term complications are seen, so it seems to me a very wide manga of your endocrine.

In 21 years I have had the same endocrine, well this year I go with another.My we have always been closer to the 7 than from 6 and they see it well.I do not see it well, I tried to improve, I have been !!, but I don't get it.
The free is almost always up to me, lately, lately they are equal to.

ricki21 said:
@peace: I have come to disconnect the alarms at night to be able to sleep quietly for the theme of the sensor crushing (this usually happens to me especially the first night after the changeof sensor).
If you want to improve your glycosylated hemoglobin, I would try an app like Diabox that allows you

Thank you!!I will try it.

Isabelbota said:
@peace
If you try not to rely on the sensor when you sleep, that is, sleep on the other side, you will avoid more than 90% of false hypos, which occur because by crushing the sensor does not reach interstitial liquid and you can rest.

Excellent!I'm going to do it !!Thank you

I do not have good glucose level good, and it is always 5-10 mg more or less in blood, yesterday the sensor marked 146 and the blood glucometer 142, it is true that when you put the sensor, the sensor, theFirst hours it takes time to calibrate, one day I put it on and marked after the 60 MINS of rigor, it marked what is less than 40, I looked at me in blood and I was at 151 and in 3 or 4 hours it was calibrated, it is truethat is going late with respect to the blood level, but I have a rather straight glycemic line, because it affects me less that delay