The Moreno Bonilla government authorizes 89 million for private health

juansevillano said:
I believe that everything depends on the political manager that we have not so much on whoever provides the service.Any private entity can do it perfectly if there are missing means.There are politicians who defend the public at ultranza and then leave a hospital closed 40 years as is the case of the Military Hospital of Seville and that Moreno Bonilla has opened a few dates ago putting many beds and services for all.Not with that I want to defend Moreno, simply say that politicians sell the motorcycle of their actions very well and how bad his adversary does it without looking at himself.& lt;/Blockqu
Andalucia is the community with more waiting lists for an operation.
And that with makeup ... I suppose you will have ever asked for an appointment with a specialist.You have reached the counter and they will have told you, that they will already send you the letter or call you on the phone.It is normal.
They do not give it to you because the agendas are so full that they spend the maximum time in which by law of 2004 they have to attend you.
The law is from March 2004, it is called the Decree of Guarantees.It is an autonomic law of Andalusia, with the maximum waiting times for health issues.
You can also go through any hospital and see closed plants and many others in half of its capacity and that with the brutal waiting lists.

ruthbia said:
@isabelbota I advocate for a mixed system.
The user pays 30 or 40% by private and the rest is public.
The public system covers all people not very economically favored by a rental system, as here when paying drugs.

It is a myth, universal health and pensions cannot be sustained with the low birth rate that we have and much less with how little it is provided today.The quotes do not cover the expenses, the system must be changed.

And public management is a waste in many institutions.Hence the management is tried to be private.The private is asked to demonstrate your management and accounts, public management is not requested or anything.And many times they are not audited.

It is true that politicians can invest more in health than in gender policies and other fools than normal citizen gives us more.If we had access to the real accounts of each counseling, we would hallucinate where our taxes are spent: advertising, works with friends that are not needed, subsidies to irrelevant companies, etc ... my brother works is this and when he counts it seems incredible,And all this without control of another organism that monitors.

There are two issues and the two hard peel, one pensions and another public health, the two very poorly managed by the government or the government, the first there are amount of pensions that have not contributed their maintenance taxes, example, exampleThe aid to migrants and non -contributory aids, this on the one hand in terms of health you will already tell me the amount of operations for sex change and other similar ones that are being made to public health and that are very expensive, withoutHowever, they discuss reactive strips or other utensils to type II diabetics.These issues have to solve them in some way, I have not been paying all my life my corresponding taxes that are many for when I need I do not benefit from anything, so I do not agree with the copayment you indicate, another thing isThat in the recipes of the medications he pays 30 percent as I am paying, because in S.S.I do not know what is paid for medications but in MuFace what I have told you is paid.
So they manage the two issues that there are money.

Military Hospital of Seville, was restored after closed years and now, it is closing in parts ... due to lack of patients 🤣.In the region with more waiting lists in Spain.
And with an increasing rumor of assignment to the chiron.
MuFace works so well that 10,000 officials a year abandon it and change to the public.By becoming older, they need more treatments ...
Sex change operations are barely done.And when I say just, it is none this year in the hospital where I am.Although the waiting list will go for 9 years.
In private, money saved in personnel is earned, the important thing is money, not the person.
When you have to ask for a loan for medical treatment, you will realize what we are losing.
And as chronic patient, our life depends on this.

Obviously @juansolo you are right in that, it is the truth.If you want the private one to work, load it.Thinking well, that money is to reduce the waiting lists of specialists and operations, thinking badly, it is the beginning of the end of social security.Personally, as you were commenting on the private insurance, I have one with a fee of 50 euros per month more co -coins, we go that if you go twice a month aon 70 euros a month or so, by the way I only did it by Adeslas and Sanitas for themselvesSomeone is interested since we are, on the other hand @semanu I do not know very well if your situation is the retiree or not, but in the SS they do not pay any percentage of medications if I have it well understood, and for what I read you surely belongTo a mutuality of officials, in my case I am going to enter MUFACE and I have informed myself and today I do not know whether to choose private or public, your case is special because it is not a private insurance since it is a mutuality and to you "private "that is not private has to cover the same as the SS, in this case, they throw you), in your case they cannot throw you why you lack SS and practically have to provide the same service as the SS and if they do not have it, they refer you to the SS, the issue is that I do not see the privateAs bad as many people demonize her, I simply see her as a support for the public that because of the abuse of her workers, endless shifts and bad remuneration scarce, and eye!We are pioneers in many medical advances despite having 1/3 of media than other countries, that the Spanish intellect that we do very much we do, so I think the SS should be supported and kicking any politicucho for any politicDo not call it differently from your armchair, and in this regard I do not think our medications, sensors, ect strips, what if it may happen is that the endocrine quotes are given a little moreFor something are the strikes right?To claim our rights? :)