Shoulder pathology, more frequent in people with diabetes

The Donostia Medical Center, Sendagrup, explains how to solve shoulder pathologies.

Shoulder pathology and more specifically the so -called frozen shoulder more frequently affects people with diabetes, to such an extent that according to a recently published study, the frozen shoulder is 5 times more frequent in people with diabetes compared to people who do notThey have diabetes.

The frozen shoulder also called adhesive shoulder capsulitis, is a pathology linked to an inflammation of the articular capsule that is chronified, giving rise to a progressive limitation of the mobility of the shoulder and intense pain, causing a significant decrease in the quality oflife of people who suffer from it.

In a study by Zreik et al, the results of all published works in which shoulder pathology and the existence of diabetes in affected people have been analyzed.

The authors have seen that the frozen shoulder is much more frequent in people with diabetes, since of all those affected by this shoulder pathology, nothing less than 30% are people with diabetes.

If you want to expand this information, you can access Sendagrup's entry: "Adhesive shoulder capsulitis or frozen shoulder is more frequent in people with diabetes"

I have been perplexed!I have been with this pain for two weeks but I blame it for work.

I have been 1 year and they already told me something like that but they did not specify me

Here one with frozen shoulder .... pending arthroscopy and "cut" everything.I can't directly raise it more than 90 degrees in any position, I can't make rotations (everyday things) and at night, a beastly pain if I try to sleep on that side.The best thing is that I have been traumatologist in traumatologist for about 2 years, they give you soothing, infiltrations ... but nobody wants to fix anything.

And the other shoulder, being low for this, begins with the pain.

We are cannon meat.How sad.

I had a fissure in the capsule of the right labrum, of a poorly cured dislocation just before debuting (I was in ketosis).After a few years and seeing that my shoulder routines did not completely solve the matter (I already noticed, I studied on this!) I decided to operate last May, and I cannot be happier.I managed to completely recover the shoulder a month earlier than expected, I have already done powerlifting and kickboxing as before.I barely notice discomfort, so don't be so afraid with the frozen shoulder that I had painted very black and for nothing, I'm very happy!

My husband has had that pain for many years and always alludes to sports previously made, particularly the volleyball.But it manifests a lotBut now he has three small daughters who fail to enter their immediate priorities .... I feel very bad

Good morning @"gabi", I am very sorry for your situation.But remember that that can be lived by any couple outside our diabetes universe.Now suck the diabetes and now add that pain that describes @"Pabloj2000".Hopefully you stay here in the forum and learn a lot about diabetes to help your husband and family.Greetings.

Fernandog said:
I had a fissure in the right labrum capsule, of a poorly cured dislocation just before debuting (I found me in ketosis).After a few years and seeing that my shoulder routines did not completely solve the matter (I already noticed, I studied on this!) I decided to operate last May, and I cannot be happier.I managed to completely recover the shoulder a month earlier than expected, I have already done powerlifting and kickboxing as before.I barely notice discomfort, so don't be so afraid with the frozen shoulder that I had painted very black and for nothing, I'm very happy!

I am what I wanted but look, pessimistic ... the SS goes from everything, waiting lists ... and in the meantime, being low waiting for a God when) because you cannot raise anything above the shoulders byEJ, they van and say goodbye ... Anyway ... they paint bastos.

The truth is that I want to get rid of this unbearable pain ... This is not normal ... and not being able to lift my arms is incredible ... I will have to try the shock waves that they told me that in many cases they fix the problem(Evidnetely, to pay your pocket since the SS does not cover them).

greetings

I recommend @"Pabloj2000" that you go to a payment traumatologist, and that makes you a magnetic resonance of payment as well, both cost me around 200 euros and they strengthen the process.After obtaining these tests, the diagnosis of the social security traumatologist was very fast and the operation in less than a year was made.I did so.And of course positivity, I know it is difficult in these cases but when one is very negative, it stops seeing the options clearly.Happy!

Fernando ... I already paid my pocket a magnetic arthrosonance with contrast (410 turkeys), but the SS did not work (it has to be his) but they already did it ... and they sent me to the unity of the shoulderThat I am waiting (I was also, to pay, to the doctor who is the head of the shoulder unit that will operate me ... And he made me role for doctor saying that they had to operate).I've been with 2 months ... less than a year ... it's a long time but good.I go to try tomorrow with a type of shock waves that told me that they could solve it (they have some clinics) or so the doctor told me to operate.More than anything to not be 1 year (and losing unemployment! That now if you are low unemployment speakers).Very positive ... as you see ... I can't be .... without work ... without being able to work ... spending the strike that is for when you have no job .... in short ... it is whatthere is.I would have been very good for me to recognize the disability that I have but .....

greetings

I have had it for many years, and the two PQ operated the tendons.It is quite well, but now they bother me again

I also started with supraespinous tendinitis that ended up degenerating in a capsulitis of the left shoulder.I must start by explaining that I have private medicine, so I can access tests and interventions more easily.And yet (after the corresponding RM and several infiltrations) they told me that this does not have a solution beyond physiotherapy and much constancy on the part of the patient, doing his exercises every day.And those exercises (and physiotherapy) simply consists of - and speaking in silver - to force the arm to where the pain is unbearable, to go by giving inflammation based on moving the joint.Something curious, but apparently is what there is.Once (few) an operation works, but it is like killing gunflows (as several traumas told me).Others (few too) shock waves could relieve something, but the most common method is what I have suffered.And I say suffer because every day was a horror that moved your arm until almost losing the knowledge of pain, which by the way - and this is not a joke - is one of the techniques to which it is also used.It consists of the patient being unconscious and anesthetized, he proceeds to force his arm in all movements.So you don't have to endure pain.This heavy is the rehabilitation of this problem.
Fortunately, and although I thought I would never recover mobility, after more than a year and a half in rehabilitation and doing the exercises at home, my arm moves a lot and now I can do what I did not do before.Now I can lift it vertically, cross my arms (posture that I didn't do before), grab my hands on my back (I couldn't do that before) ... and many more things.I have enough mobility to make normal life and even make my weight sessions in the gym without problems.Although I still have limitation in what usually takes longer to recover: internal rotation (up the bad arm behind the back).But I keep working that exercise every day in the gym and is improving.
I think that for all that I have read and talked to specialists, this is a real P **** A and despite all the advances we have today, the most effective treatment is to give the arm "to the beast".Although each case as always is different.
Courage to all who have this task.And do not stop doing exercises every day to deflate the capsule and recover the original mobility.

@Hansolo you have clarified me a lot because then I look like I am starting.What costs me above all is the internal rotation of the right arm and lifting it back stretched, I see the stars.I also notice above all this weekend, on the right side of the pain pain and on my own I have started stretching and exercises that I have seen online apart from floating because my doctor surely sends me anti -inflammatories as in other cases and it is not funny

Well, I confirm the solution, at least in my case ... Focal shock waves (if I am not mistaken are these) ... paid from your pocket obviously ... confirmed the doctor who gives them to me, that thisIt is recovered 100% without the need for a scalpel (which mania have with the scalpel told me) ... and I attest ... in the first session I could sleep on that side and an incredible relief-he tried 1 year without being able to do it-, and now with the second session -there is a few hours -... impressive ... I can already put my hand on the neck... with the first session ... I already touched a finger .. and now I put the palm in the back of the rear pantaon).Come on, a bestial advance.

That said, informing you of these waves, because for adhesive capsulitis, that is, what we suffer, is the fastest, non -invasive solution, because it is a while ... in fact it has to hurt ... just when youIt hurts, it is when it gives you cane and the pain begins to disappear, come on, that for what it tells me ... if these waves are put to a healthy person does not hurt .. when I see the stars .. and precisely theThat we have this problem, where it hurts, is where it has to give it (and effectively endures the pain, and you see how it goes down until it disappears.

Surprised, and repentant to have lost about 2 years, and the last almost useless year .... without knowing of this.

Hansolo ... what you say from doing it "sleeping", it depends on the degree you have ... In my case they told me - the doctor who would operate me from the SS - that would not work, had to do arthroscopy ... in casesMilder that is the technique they use (break them).

Come on, right now, I am that I do not know of joy ... and I only carry 2 sessions of the 5-6 planned, which have to be spaced in time.

The problem is that now while I waited for the SS, the pain on the left shoulder appeared ... I still have to give me some session ... but in my case I am clear that it is the solution (and for what it tells me, it is theSolution for this problem, without operating, that is not necessary).

In the SS I now have an appointment for "rehabilitation", and he has already told me that they do nothing to me (I was already in physiotherapy sessions 1 month ago and I confirm this, in my case, they are worthless, absolutely at all), thisPhysiotherapy problem is not solved, which even forcing, can be aggravated (calcifications are hardening).

Of course ... who knew all this before .... as they say there ... I applaud with your ears ... to see you useless ... to see that you can make certain movements that you could no longer could!¡

Greetings

Congratulations!He arrived on time!
I hope you put that treatment in the SS soon.

Hello everyone, I already mentioned my pain in the right shoulder months ago because yes, it is "frozen" shoulder, I have not infiltrated myself, I spent a lotI have improved a little, the rehabilitative doctor has told me that it is very slow, I really really ...
He told me a technique called eco -stated hydrodilation that helps in the rehabilitation process.I doubt it because it is liquid injected with corticosteroids and that could also be with another natural anti -inflammatory (arnica) and the truth, I did not want to infiltrate me when I had more pain.
Does anyone have experience in this technique or others?
Although I have already read shock waves but he didn't tell me about them.
Greetings

Hello, someone else who has had adhesive capsulitis, how was your recovery?I have been with physiotherapy (stretching exercises, ultrasound) for 9 months.The truth that I have improved but the internal rotation worst, it seems that I do not advance.The rehabilitative doctor has told me the shock waves to advance but I am not convinced since the traumatologist told me that he is cured.I would appreciate your experiences, I am a little desperate.Greetings

091975 said:
Hello, someone else who had adhesive capsulitis ,How was your recovery?I have been with physiotherapy (stretching exercises, ultrasound) for 9 months.The truth that I have improved but the internal rotation worst, it seems that I do not advance.The rehabilitative doctor has told me the shock waves to advance but I am not convinced since the traumatologist told me that he is cured.I would appreciate your experiences, I am a little desperate.Greetings

Hello everyone!I am physiotherapist and read in that thread a number of messages referring to the forced mobilization of the arm, to exercises with pain .... All evil in my opinion and according to the latest investigations that type of treatment can cause more pain, more stress andMore inflammation.

I would also like to share a positive message and that although it is a lasting injury, according to scientific studies it has a good prognosis in 80% of cases.

If we understand why this injury occurs both health professionals and patients, there will be a better recovery.Here is a recent article that talks about the subject:
Pietrzak M. Adhesive Capsulitis: An Age Related Symptom of Metabolic Syndrome and Chronic Low-Grade Inflammation?Med Hypothes.2016 Mar; 88: 12-7.DOI: 10.1016/J.mehy.2016.01.002.EPUB 2016 Jan 9. PMID: 26880627.

I have been with very strong shoulder pain for about a year and that makes it impossible to move my arm over my head.Years ago I had it on the right shoulder but with physiotherapy I managed to recover almost all the mobility of the right although part of the pain is still there.Of course, the way of "recovering" was in full pain, with very painful mobilizations by the physio, heat, electrical discharges, infrared, etc.It was in the time of full cuts in health and a physio that was in its practice phase, which was Italian, he told me that in Italy I would have operated the tendon.
Now with the left, and without pandemic treatment, I have tried to exercise at home and get hot, but I have not achieved anything and I have given up.I have requested an ultrasound since May, but today I know nothing.

It seems a lie !!I also have been spinning for several traumatologists for a year and they have told me everything, that if osteoarthritis that if tendinitis and it turns out that I have the same symptoms that you have narrated and I am finally known to know what I have, that of osteoarthritisI tell myself that for age I was accustomed to me and I prescribed Flogoprofen. The latter if he made me resonance and I was diagnosedThat there was no way of controlling it, it still hurts me but I can move it a lot and sleep on that side, we will see in a few months when the effect of infiltration passes.Anyway I am very happy with this forum for clarifying this problem.