Newly diagnosed husband.I have 1000 doubts

Hello, just 10 days ago in an ordinary analytics, a very high glucose index came to my husband: 411. He had not had symptoms.The only thing that I now identify as a symptom is weight loss, which we both attributed to walking quite every day, before and after teleworking.An hour in the morning and 2 in the afternoon.I wanted to lose some weight and cook in a light way, but he served separately, enough cheese, sausages, fried potatoes and things that fattening.And curiously he and I, very little.
Seeing that analytics we ask for time with the first doctor we found available and was of internal medicine.He prescribed a new analytics with many more markers.I found information about glycemic food and indices and changed your diet.We bought a glucometer and after 2 days it marked more than 500, so on Monday we went to emergency because I was very scared.
They had a few hours under observation and prescribed metformin. (1 a day)
They have made a holter and a new analytics.In that it gave about 350 glucose and 12.6 glycosilada.
We returned to the doctor and says to continue with the treatment they put in the emergency room, because that analysis confirms diabetes 2.
We have also done online consultation with the doctor of the ambulatory, but we still have no answer, because the megapuente began.
I hope that after the bridge we can receive some diet pattern, because we are lost.
He has not found himself wrong at any time.And now, I have put a diet of what I think correct, what I have been reading before finding this forum: grilled white meats, fish, yogurt, avocado, nuts (not fried, or salty) andBread only some bread integrate.I rely on glycemic index tables.
He ate a lot of pasta, and many sweet desserts: flan, Catalan cream, a lot of cheese (Manchego, Emmental and others).And also quite sausage.
Now ... he will stay like a little bird, because by removing all that, he will lose weight even more.
We have no idea when this has appeared and if it really has to feed so restrictively.
The level is measured in the morning on an empty stomach and at night before dinner.A while ago he has given the most low registration: 182.
Since Monday he has been going down little by little.
We do not know if we measure it at the right time or not.Or if you have to do it more times.
And about the diet, we are also lost.Somewhere I have read that cheese can be taken and now only takes some type of Burgos under salt.
What can eat it is caloric so as not to lose more weight, and be compatible with your diabetes?
A fried egg for example is bad?
He has not tested the potatoes, rice or pasta again.And another thing that drank is frequent is alcohol beer.Never drink alcohol, but beer without alcohol and I have already read that it is equally bad for diabetes as the other.So alcohol without alcohol has also left it.
A little over a month ago we were on a cruise and he in the buffet put his boots.We had thought that perhaps the sugar had shot him for having eaten a lot of pasta, pizzas, risottos and ice cream, but we did not have the surprise of being diabetic overnight.
I am very distressed, so any advice will be well received.
Thank you very much and cordial greetings.

Diabetes does not mean to stop eating certain things like pasta, pizza or sausages.You will simply have to calculate your rations and HC according to your treatment (in this case metformin) and your physical activity.At first it is very difficult until you understand your body but then it is easier to carry.I guess they will give you an appointment with the diabetes specialist to inform you of the Nutrition theme etc.

@Annaisergi88, you can be calm if you see that with the glucometer it already goes down to controllable values.They will make an antibody analytics to be clear about the diagnosis and put the proper treatment, but, meanwhile, if the diet has dropped so much, you can expect calm.The glucometer is very helpful.

Hello, I suppose yes, that they will lead us to a specialist, but since this has suddenly arrived and at the bridge doors, because I suppose we will take a few days and in this interval we do not know well what to do.Hence my anguish, because it is I who cooks.

The antibody analytics I think is already done, but I'm not sure.They looked at many parameters, and included urine and feces analysis.

I didn't say your age.He is 57 years old.

Greetings

Hi @annaisergi88
What your husband accounts is my story.I lost weight, although in my case there was also a lot of hunger, thirst and a lot of Pis and Di 386 and a 15.9 glyc.
After insisting a lot the doctor sent me to the endocrine.Di negative in antibodies (I am therefore type 2) but the very low C peptide, 0.6, indicating that the pancreas is running out and therefore I need external insulin.Have you made your husband C to your husband?
You are on the right track.Diet and sport are infallible.And with only metformin there is no choice but to follow a strict average diet.
What you ask ...
A fried egg can be eaten.It has no hydrates.Yes, it has fat, but if your husband lacks weight, he can take fat, always without abusing, since they are in excess are bad for everyone.You can also drink cheese and sausages, of course.
In this the story is to discover what is going to each one.For example, the watermelon I cannot even smell it, a little piece and I put myWhat I ate before.
I buy the sensor, with what I see what uploads more or less.Nor is it always the same, if you have not done sports things go up much more.
The theme of the strips ...
Let's see, I think they are necessary at least 6 measurements.Before breakfast, 2 hours later, before the food and dinner and 3 hours later in my case (it took to go up and down).With this you see how food affects.The problem is that they do not prescribe so much and they are very expensive, so I bought a glucometer with cheap strips, I checked that it goes more or less like the other and thus I could control me more.And everything pointed in a notebook, measurements, what I ate, etc.
Calm that you are doing well.An important thing, sign all the doubts that arise for you when you see the doctor, then forget everything (it happened to me).
And here we are for what is needed.

sofia000 said:
diabetes does not mean to stop eating certain things like pasta, pizza or sausages.You will simply have to calculate your rations and HC according to your treatment (in this case metformin) and your physical activity.At first it is very difficult until you understand your body but then it is easier to carry.I guess they will give you an appointment with the diabetes specialist to inform you of the Nutrition theme etc.

In non -insulin -dependent diabetes the diet is quite strict.Metformin does not perform the function of external insulin, so unfortunately there are things that should not be taken.

Isabelbota said:
hello @annaisergi88
What your husband accounts is my story.I lost weight, although in my case there was also a lot of hunger, thirst and a lot of Pis and Di 386 and a 15.9 glyc.
After insisting a lot the doctor sent me to the endocrine.Di negative in antibodies (I am therefore type 2) but the very low C peptide, 0.6, indicating that the pancreas is running out and therefore I need external insulin.Have you made your husband C to your husband?
You are on the right track.Diet and sport are infallible.And with only metformin there is no choice but to follow a strict average diet.
What you ask ...
A fried egg can be eaten.It has no hydrates.Yes, it has fat, but if your husband lacks weight, he can take fat, always without abusing, since they are in excess are bad for everyone.You can also drink cheese and sausages, of course.
In this the story is to discover what is going to each one.For example, the watermelon I cannot even smell it, a little piece and I put myWhat I ate before.
I buy the sensor, with what I see what uploads more or less.Nor is it always the same, if you have not done sports things go up much more.
The theme of the strips ...
Let's see, I think they are necessary at least 6 measurements.Before breakfast, 2 hours later, before the food and dinner and 3 hours later in my case (it took to go up and down).With this you see how food affects.The problem is that they do not prescribe so much and they are very expensive, so I bought a glucometer with cheap strips, I checked that it goes more or less like the other and thus I could control me more.And everything pointed in a notebook, measurements, what I ate, etc.
Calm that you are doing well.An important thing, sign all the doubts that arise for you when you see the doctor, then forget everything (it happened to me).
And here we are for what is needed.

Thank you so much.The glucometer is Amazon from the Adia brand.
I will look for what you tell me about resistant starches.And I will tell you to make more measurements.
It doesn't sound like that of the peptide.We will look at the analysis well.But the doctor did not mention it.
Again 1000 thanks and sure I will have more doubts.
A hug.

Better that @isabelBota, impossible, explained, if perhaps a council, the bread that is forgotten until they are diagnosed because the majority are a hoax, only 30% are comprehensive and if they are 100% integral they usually add sugar because they areacids and bitter.Integral or sarracene or thread grass or spelled etc ... etc ... are not recommended because they also raise blood glucose, at least as Isabel says as long as it is not dependent insulin, and finally a diet trick if you eat hydrates, use the dessert dish for the first and/or second (for the amount to be ingested)

alberto_13 said:
better than @isabelbota, impossible, if perhaps a council, the bread that is forgotten until they diagnose because the majority are a hoax, only 30% are integralAnd if they are 100% integral they usually add sugar because they are acidic and bitter.Integral or sarracene or thread grass or spelled etc ... etc ... are not recommended because they also raise blood glucose, at least as Isabel says as long as it is not dependent insulin, and finally a diet trick if you eat hydrates, use the dessert dish for the first and/or second (by the amount to be ingested)

Oh ... we didn't know that!It is taking integral or spelled bread mixed with integral.😢

Pasta, at the moment it does not enter my plans to cook it ... so it will not take it.

Thank you so much!

annaisergi88 said:
Hello, just 10 days ago in an ordinary analytics a very high glucose index came to my husband: 411. He had not had symptoms.The only thing that I now identify as a symptom is weight loss, which we both attributed to walking quite every day, before and after teleworking.An hour in the morning and 2 in the afternoon.I wanted to lose some weight and cook in a light way, but he served separately, enough cheese, sausages, fried potatoes and things that fattening.And curiously he and I, very little.
Seeing that analytics we ask for time with the first doctor we found available and was of internal medicine.He prescribed a new analytics with many more markers.I found information about glycemic food and indices and changed your diet.We bought a glucometer and after 2 days it marked more than 500, so on Monday we went to emergency because I was very scared.
They had a few hours under observation and prescribed metformin. (1 a day)
They have made a holter and a new analytics.In that it gave about 350 glucose and 12.6 glycosilada.
We returned to the doctor and says to continue with the treatment they put in the emergency room, because that analysis confirms diabetes 2.
We have also done online consultation with the doctor of the ambulatory, but we still have no answer, because the megapuente began.
I hope that after the bridge we can receive some diet pattern, because we are lost.
He has not found himself wrong at any time.And now, I have put a diet of what I think correct, what I have been reading before finding this forum: grilled white meats, fish, yogurt, avocado, nuts (not fried, or salty) andBread only some bread integrate.I rely on glycemic index tables.
He ate a lot of pasta, and many sweet desserts: flan, Catalan cream, a lot of cheese (Manchego, Emmental and others).And also quite sausage.
Now ... he will stay like a little bird, because by removing all that, he will lose weight even more.
We have no idea when this has appeared and if it really has to feed so restrictively.
The level is measured in the morning on an empty stomach and at night before dinner.A while ago he has given the most low registration: 182.
Since Monday he has been going down little by little.
We do not know if we measure it at the right time or not.Or if you have to do it more times.
And about the diet, we are also lost.Somewhere I have read that cheese can be taken and now only takes some type of Burgos under salt.
What can eat it is caloric so as not to lose more weight, and be compatible with your diabetes?
A fried egg for example is bad?
He has not tested the potatoes, rice or pasta again.And another thing that drank is frequent is alcohol beer.Never drink alcohol, but beer without alcohol and I have already read that it is equally bad for diabetes as the other.So alcohol without alcohol has also left it.
A little over a month ago we were on a cruise and he in the buffet put his boots.We had thought that perhaps the sugar had shot him for having eaten a lot of pasta, pizzas, risottos and ice cream, but we did not have the surprise of being diabetic overnight.
I am very distressed, so any advice will be well received.
Thank you very much and cordial greetings.

It will not lose weight more if it is controlled, the other way around, it will put some weight.When the sugar is very high, and as is your case, although there is insulin but there is a lotThat is overwhelmed, as your sugar level is controlling and improving, that resistance will decrease and put some weight.
I am DM type 1, and I follow aLow food in carbohydrates, which means q.Not as bread (only some protein bread), neither rice nor pasta nor potatoes.Legumes one day a week and fruit at most once a day and those that I see that they do not upload me much, that it is not very mature.In type 1 when injecting insulna, you can be a little more flexible with the food PQ you put a little more insulin and it is already, in type 2 using pills, that is more complicated.I continue low food in hydrates because I have been with diabetes for many years and my endocrine wants that I tried to be in range of 70 to 140 all the time even after meals, and as stable as possible, with few peaks, but of course not all theDiabetics do this type of food.
Also a lot of type 2, when they begin, if they continue to fed low in hydrates, they can even reduce their medication and greatly improve control and insulin resistance, and if, as it is to be assumed, your husband still has its own insulin of your own, that helps that helpTo preserve your insulin because you do not have to use it much since what Rome does not demand much response from your pancreas.
I am a sanitary, family doctor, the initial dose is usually a metformin company every 12 h, after breakfast and after dinner.The first week is usually started with average every 12 h to avoid flatulence and diarrhea that is quite frequent.Yes it is tolerated well, then passes every 12 h.If it is not tolerated, you can change your pill.
Without insulin they will not finance you either the strips or the sensor.If you can afford it, buy at least at least the strips.They cost about € 50 50 strips and it is better to make a full profile three days in SEM than to do it on an empty stomach every day.A profile gives much more information. A profile is before and two hours after each meal, six determinations, and see how it is throughout the day.
I imagine that when they already study it in conditions, they will give you more guidelines, all this is if it really is type 2 as you say !!Yes it is type 1, many things change.
Courage, all the beginnings are difficult but soon incorporates it into your life and will not have problems.

Thank you very much @meginer I didn't know any of this of the profile.I will tell you to do it for 3 days.Maybe Friday to Sunday.We will be at home and it is easier to keep control.
What if they already told us in the ambulatory is that they do not cover the strips or the apparatus if it does not put insulin.
It seems that they have given him a low dose, because they have prescribed a pill only every 24 hours.
Let's see if next week, which is no longer bridge, we get an appointment with endocrine.Because as we get at parties, the subject can be complicated.
I am sure that it will be rigorous with food, because our young son was allergic to several foods up to 8 years and at home we are used to following diets avoiding allergens very rajatabla.
A hug!

Hello again, 15 days have passed and we are getting used to this new life.Finally, after seeing the second analytics, the Dr. del Cap changed the medication.Metformin of 850 every 12 hours, instead of every 24. The levels have them more normalized.Once above 120, but little.In the morning it is always higher than in the afternoon/night, but I have already read that it is frequent.
The issue of continuing to lose weight is normal, once the sugar levels are more normalized?Because I understood that the cells are taking the food of the body of the body, while the pancreas does not generate sufficient insulin, but I thought that with metformin, the pancreas is already releasing some insulin and the issue of thinning is stopped.
The diet that wears is very light, because after having taken a diet rich in hydrates such as pasta, white bread or rice, now what abounds are vegetables, nuts, legumes (only cooked, not in potajes or sausageor things like that).I don't know, if you are doing a low calorie diet or where the problem is.Last week they already gave us time with the nurse.He made an electro and took the weight.It is in normal weight.He gave him the glucometer and have prescribed strips to do only 3 measurements a week.At the end of February it touches another analysis, but for now they do not send it to the endocrine of the social sec.
What do you think of continuing to lose weight?
What can I prepare that it is caloric and compatible with diabetes?
Thank you again.

Do not worry about weight, you'll see that with a diet rich in legumes, fruit, vegetables and grilled meats everything will go well.I had lost 9 kg.When I was diagnosed with a lada type (they caught me with almost 400), and once medicated and with this diet and exercise, in three months I recovered them.More I have not fattened, I am thin, but I have not gone less.

Thanks @Baskerbill.I think that as I used to take so many hydrates, and now it is based on vegetables, grilled meat, etc.The trend can be to lose more weight, because it looks like a diet to lose weight.But if you tell me that you recovered it, then we will wait to see if the same thing happens.

Precisely metformin is not the best hypoglycemic to gain weight ...

alberto_13 said:
precisely metformin is not the best hypoglycemic to gain weight ...

And then ... how can you compensate for that effect?Apart from the nuts, I can't think of anything higher in calories and low glycemic index.

My experience is that I was losing weight with metformin, until they sent me basal insulin, of course it significantly improve blood glucose, pass from a 7.2 to 6.1 glyce

Good morning, the issue of weight is a problem that we have almost all diabetics until we stabilize.In my case I am DM1 Lada and until they were not right the diagnosis, pass 82 kg to 58 kg !!!It was sorry !!!Once I left the metformin and started with basal (Tresiba) first and then fast (Humalog) will recover 13 kg in 4 months.I recover muscles and my self -esteem returned to normal levels.The truth is that at first the diagnosis of DM1 was traumatized but once you get used to controlling yourself and always being aware of your illness, the truth is that you can live reasonably well.You can eat almost everything in moderation once you know how your body reacts to your rapid insulin dose.For me the weight loss obsessed and I always thought about the bottom that it was a symptom of some other more serious not diagnosed disease.Fortunately it wasn't like this

Thank you @javiergallardo1963 I deduce for your nick that you are of the same age, because my husband is from 1964. I celebrate that this thinness did not be for another reason and that the curve finally doubleds.I think that he has now stagnated around 70 and in the last week he has not dropped anymore.Let's see if it continues.

annaisergi88 said:
Hello, just 10 days ago in an ordinary analytics a very high glucose index came to my husband: 411. He had not had symptoms.The only thing that I now identify as a symptom is weight loss, which we both attributed to walking quite every day, before and after teleworking.An hour in the morning and 2 in the afternoon.I wanted to lose some weight and cook in a light way, but he served separately, enough cheese, sausages, fried potatoes and things that fattening.And curiously he and I, very little.
Seeing that analytics we ask for time with the first doctor we found available and was of internal medicine.He prescribed a new analytics with many more markers.I found information about glycemic food and indices and changed your diet.We bought a glucometer and after 2 days it marked more than 500, so on Monday we went to emergency because I was very scared.
They had a few hours under observation and prescribed metformin. (1 a day)
They have made a holter and a new analytics.In that it gave about 350 glucose and 12.6 glycosilada.
We returned to the doctor and says to continue with the treatment they put in the emergency room, because that analysis confirms diabetes 2.
We have also done online consultation with the doctor of the ambulatory, but we still have no answer, because the megapuente began.
I hope that after the bridge we can receive some diet pattern, because we are lost.
He has not found himself wrong at any time.And now, I have put a diet of what I think correct, what I have been reading before finding this forum: grilled white meats, fish, yogurt, avocado, nuts (not fried, or salty) andBread only some bread integrate.I rely on glycemic index tables.
He ate a lot of pasta, and many sweet desserts: flan, Catalan cream, a lot of cheese (Manchego, Emmental and others).And also quite sausage.
Now ... he will stay like a little bird, because by removing all that, he will lose weight even more.
We have no idea when this has appeared and if it really has to feed so restrictively.
The level is measured in the morning on an empty stomach and at night before dinner.A while ago he has given the most low registration: 182.
Since Monday he has been going down little by little.
We do not know if we measure it at the right time or not.Or if you have to do it more times.
And about the diet, we are also lost.Somewhere I have read that cheese can be taken and now only takes some type of Burgos under salt.
What can eat it is caloric so as not to lose more weight, and be compatible with your diabetes?
A fried egg for example is bad?
He has not tested the potatoes, rice or pasta again.And another thing that drank is frequent is alcohol beer.Never drink alcohol, but beer without alcohol and I have already read that it is equally bad for diabetes as the other.So alcohol without alcohol has also left it.
A little over a month ago we were on a cruise and he in the buffet put his boots.We had thought that perhaps the sugar had shot him for having eaten a lot of pasta, pizzas, risottos and ice cream, but we did not have the surprise of being diabetic overnight.
I am very distressed, so any advice will be well received.
Thank you very much and cordial greetings.

Hello first to say that I am Type 2 Diabetico five years ago.
I always read them and I am Uruguayan.
How they will know is a small country and luckily health is good to public.
At first that the analytics came out, an endocrinologist attended me. What I could learn is that each case is a world. It is excellent reading comments here.In the case of your husband they sent it normal diaformin 850 two per day, (II still do this almost six years ago).Diaformin slim a bit at the beginningThen the body adapts. Sure that I have uncles of 85 and 89 and as we know today's advances are impressive.What I did was inform myself a lot, that helped me to my head, and today I speak with my endocrine almost like an educator in jaaa diabetes.