Calculate rations (carbohydrates)

There is a formula to calculate approximately which lowers an insulin unit.1800/total insulin (basal, faster) units is an approach, but in my case it is very close to reality.During pregnancy that I had to change the amounts of insulin (I ended up putting me more than double than before) this formula helped me to calculate the corrector bolus

That is the formula that I use and in my case it is very approximate.

It must be that those who have the pump behave differently.4 mg/dl lowers me for each injected unit.Measured at 2 hours of injection.I never got 60 of the 60s, I would go from hicc as hiccups and shot because it touches me.

I do not carry a bomb and each insulin unit lowers me about 50/60 that depends on the sensitivity of each person, for example at breakfast I can only inject a unit since I get down a lot in the morning.
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As Campanilla says it depends on each person's sensitivity, for example an insulin unit lowers me 90 - 100.

And how do you know your insulin sensitivity index?

Prado, I don't understand how a single U.I.Insulin can download 60 mg/dl.According to my formula (320/p = descent mg/dl) you should weigh 6.6 kg!Something does not fit.The formula the jacket of an American doctor (the Spaniards do not have time for these nonsense) that has calculated among their diabetic patients than an U.I.of insulin "does not slow" injected low 10 mg/dl to a 32 kg weight;5 mg/dl to a person of 64 kg and 2.5 mg/dl to a person of 128 kg. A simple three rule in reverse gives me 320/p = mg/dl.I weight 84 kg and that gives me 4. I have put 7 IU of mixed, 2 hours have passed and 34 mg/dl have lowered (almost exact to the expected).Neither I Quito nor put king.The figures, figures are.I am type 2, without a bomb.Now exactly 30 years of diabetic (November 1983).I still think that those who use the pump use different figures.I call injected to put an injection of X U.I.of insulin, not to adjust the pump to increase the flow in X U.I.Maybe here is the discrepancy.

@erguiye, the mixed insulin, who composition of Rapida takes? Do you consider it for the calculation?

Erguiye, the mixed insulin carries as its name indicates a part of slow insulin and another part of fast insulin ... if you put a unit of Mixtard 30 the rapid insulin proportion is 30 to 70 ... I mean that very little .... The calculations that are being talked about here are with fast insulin (Novorapid, Humalog), and the formula that they have commented in previous post is what the Spanish endocrine applies in their consultations, both for bombs and for feathers, thatYes, with basal+bolus therapy.

@erguiye, you cannot compare the rapid insulin with the mixed ever of the hairs, so the calculation you do, it should not work as you say.If the calculation is for the administration of fast insun, it does not fit that it makes the effect "almost accurate to the expected."Keep in mind that each diabetic is a world and that the diet of a diabetic person usually also helps the effect of insulin to be different.You cannot compare a person who ingests the necessary HC to a person who does not ...

Two useful links.In the second, he explains that for regular insulin the calculation of the corrector bolus is different.They are formulas that must be understood that it is something theoretical and cannot be applied because yes.It is simply a guide to facilitate the calculation of insulin needs.That nobody can drastically change your doses because what a formula says ...

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Tica said:
Two useful links.In the second, he explains that for regular insulin the calculation of the corrector bolus is different.They are formulas that must be understood that it is something theoretical and cannot be applied because yes.It is simply a guide to facilitate the calculation of insulin needs.That nobody can drastically change your doses because what a formula says ...

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Thanks Tica: -BD

I use Novorapid and Lantus.
Currently 12 of Lantus and depends on what about 4-4-2 of Novorapid.
Weight 65 Kg. How can I calculate how fast each unit goes down?The 320/weight as not, because if I had 300 and I want to go down to 100 I would have to prick 20 fast units, I die.

I like the formula that tica has pointed out. Total insulin two -year -old (adds the basal and bowling) and divides between 1800.
In your case 12+4+4+2 = 22,1800: 22 = 81.81, that is, a rapid insulin unit decreases blood glucose approximately 81 mg/dl.

The best thing is that you try what lowers you with the glucometer. My daughter, a fast unit usually lowers 50 glucose.

Erguiye are a type 2 and by definition you have insulin resistance Type 1 normally we have a very low insulin resistance with what the doses are not comparable.
I put 18 from Lantus and usually send me at 80-90 mg/dl between meals and for 5 rations of hydrates with 5-6 units I have plenty if I am not going to exercise, a friend is type 2 weighs about 30 kg plus moreThat I and puts 60 of Lantus and if he keeps it in 120 he is already happy, fast for meals I do not want to know what he puts on (because when I tell me I get dizzy ...) but it goes from 10 and sometimesof the 20 units.
I personally do as in 100 and at 2 hours I am in 180 and I put a unit at 2 hours and scratching the hypo, the end of the fast food and the unit that I put later ...

According to the tica formula I low

Today at 730 dawn with 155 use 4u of rapida aspartica novorapid
Knowing that I was going to breakfast 200ml of te 100 ml of milk or 4.5 HC plus 20gr of ground oatmeal 11 HC plus 10 gr of white bread 4.5 Hc and 50 gr of half moons 30 gr of HC and 22u of insulin stopLevemir
at 800 for the day until 2000
At 1000 I measure me and I have 215mg/dl
They are 60 mg/dl more
I think the 50gr of HC 5 rations consumed were incorporated into my 5 lts of blood or 100mg/dl
Then the initial 155mg/dl plus 100ml/dl give 255mg/dl
And the 4U of rapida decreased by 40 mg/dl my glycemia
All practically without physical activity
It seems that the 850 mg of metformin had no effect
Or the 50 mcg of soda levothyroxine retard the action of insulin and prevails over the 5 mg of enalapril that accelerate it
Therefore each person responds differently to each insulin unit
The proportion of calories was 15 from PR 15 of GR and 70 of CH
Total breakfast 290 kcal
At 1100 I have 195 under 10mg/dl more in an hour sitting writing
If I make a 20 -minute walk at 6 km/h low 50 mg/dl but it is raining
As I have 80 kg I need between 1500 and 2000 kcal according to this home or walk and that represents between 180 and 250 HC daily
And in turn between fast and slow and according to meal schedule
It is impossible to standardize something
How do I like mathematics and research I can approach what I need
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There is also glucose consumption due to mental activity
20% of the Energy of the CH goes to the brain will be between 30gr and 50gr of the HC consumed
About 10 gr of HC x each meal
My average expenditure is $ 1 x every 25 kcal consumed that represent approximately 300gr of the strictly solid part of the food of each day
Now 1 hr after I am 145 mg/dl 40 less with the combined action of the 2 insulins and metformin

At 1300 130 mg/dl at 5 hours from breakfast without collations consume 60 gr of HC and use another 850 mg of metformin
I'm going to use 4u fasting again