My recent experience with slow and fast insulin

After noticing that with glibenclamide and others I did not recover insulin, they changed me to insulin slowly 22 U in the morning and 14 u at night.

And the rapid aspartic according to measurement before each meal.

According to the results I was caculating at the rate of 1 U for every 15gr of CH to eat or take.

So for now I inject apart from the Basal 6u of Rapida before each meal in my almost always 4 meals daily
Breakfast and snack 100 milk 200 cooked matte 40 g bread 10g honey 10 g oatmeal and 40 cheese.

Lunch and dinner 80 Lechugue 80 Zapallito 80 Pumpkin 100 Pope 40 Bread 80 breast or cow meat or pork and 100 banana always metformin 850 at des alm and dinner to use insulin well.

I am much better than before but I do not know what objective I must arrive and I would like to try with more complex meals empanadas and others.

I am 69 years 80 kg 174 of high consumption 1800 kcal.

Simple daily activity varying a little when I do health or purchases procedures.

I try not to have stress or infections.

Hugs!

Thanks for explaining your experience.
You do everything very well, except for honey.Try to replace it with a piece of fresh fruit.

Your goal to get would be to achieve glycemia values ​​(most of the time) between 70 and 160 mg/dl.

Good control is reflected in the value of glycosylated hemoglobin, which has to be less than 7
And you can replace some meals with others with the equivalence of rations
Or simply experimenting with the help of the glucometer.

The meals are very compensated between hydrate and protein, I would ingest less hydrates, for example change banana for another lower fruit in hydrates such as orange, apple or pear.

Honey outside, it gives you a lot of hydrate.
Try a Stevia sweetener.If you drink milk, don't drink cheese.Eat bread with some protein: ham or turkey.And time of oatmeal that has a lot of hydrate, a small fruit.You will have better values.

There are food equivalence tables so you can combine food by portions: 300g lettuce = 300g chard = 250g green Jewish all equal 10g HC which is 1 ration here.

Hi Ruthbia this week I will be testing a feeding for a quiet and one more moved day
The quiet with 1600kcal with 200g of CH the other 2000kcal with 250 of CH
Both respecting the proportion advised in% of 15% of proteins 30% of fats and 55% of CH
Yesterday's blood glucose values ​​were:
Before breakfast 102 go 6u il 22u
Before Alm 87 IR 6U
Before Snack 82 IR 4U
Before dinner 79 go 4u il 14u
TODAY DAW WITH 93 IR 4U IL 22U
Whether how I get to lunch
Always with peace of mind and without infections

Go is fast insulin aspartica novorapid
Il is slow to detection Levemir
Both of Novo Nordisk provided x Public Health
For an expense theme only consumption offers and second or third brands and I am seeing the bread without salt with savings
For here it costs between $ 45 and $ 50 per kilo of that bread and doing it despite having an oven of only 250 degrees (it does not come out so spongy) expense only $ 10
I hope not to bore the data and serve someone
I see that it is essential to measure myself 4 times a day, for which I would use 120 strips per month
Will it be correct to proceed like this?Well, I still can't feel my sugar as soon as my sugar is and in the function of this apply equis unid to go

Or do you have to handle the IL to motivate to exercise and not use anything to be saved in case of lack of control due to stress infections or other things?
Is it harmful to use insulin of the way I am using it?
Can I insulin my pancreas intermittently or never again?
Greetings thanks for the patience of reading me
If I can do it, I would like to send a photo or directly part of the Excel file where I make my annotations and where I have a large database where the foods of my region are with all the values ​​of CH, fat proteins vitamins oligelements mineral and the price forweight
Even the use of each food and separate its water content that in fruits and vegetables is very high

At lunch it arrives with 98 after 38 gr breakfast of CH and use go 4 u
Write what happens at 1830
I should alternate with legumes to see how glycemia behaves
Yesterday I withdraw an analysis with the glycosylated in 9.2 they would be bad if it were not that in December I had given me 12.8 and on March 10.9. I go to 6.0 in December if in my country there is no revolution and cutRemedies to retired diabetics
Maybe I arrive before going down the CH to 180 with 1500 kcal daily and stabilize me in 77 or 78 kg
In March I was detected hypothyroidism and medication I better improve metabolism
I would say that both diabetes and hypothyroidism taught me to eat well

I would like to change information with those who have the pleasure of trying to understand the things that happen in our body because of diabetes 1 and 2 and how to minimize sudden variations in glycemia values
I really like the mathematics and the theme of food gives to make many calculations due to the different food composition values ​​and compatible caloric needs depending on our weight, activity, general state, age, sex, place of the planet, social social situationAnd I don't know how many more things
Greetings to all

You have great values.If you are like that, you should always have a low glyc.
Do you measure yourself at 2 hours after eating?
It is important to know if the insulin will go well.

The theme is the reactive strips, they reach me for 4 x day a measurement before each meal it is not possible for me to anticipate or quantify is whether the pancreas can be released normal insulin and if the liver gives to release glucogen this uncertainty this uncertainty causes me restlessnessAnd it is a matter that glycemia rises
That is why the medication two hours later I do not know if it helps or induces me

The next Gluco Medicion will be in September

I ask you, how are the diabetes start data, use of insulin and other data that I see of several users?Together with the data of the achievements with the glycosilada
Thank you

In your user profile.
If you have 4 strips a day.I at the main food one for the postprandial (2 hours after food)
If with the control you carry you already have more or less the guideline before each meal, I would skip any measurement before eating to measure more postprandials.So you would know if going it has been right.

Thank you
You know that with this night dinner I will complete 2 days without using the fast
I want to see how the basal stops with 22u at 800 and 14 or 2 hours before dinner
I do not know how slow insulin is distributed in the body or how much it really lasts.
And calculate at what time their effects overlap.
I will try to get a container of 50 more strips for the postprandrial of 2 hours after stopping
In lunch and dinner it takes me 20#30 minutes and at breakfast and snack between 10 and 15 min
Tomorrow I will repeat content and schedules to see if it increases to 24 and 16
I am without collations and eating at breakfast 3.5 r in alm 5.5 r at Mer 3.5 R and at dinner 5.5 R.
At 800, 1300, 1800 and 2300
Use rapid 1 u for each des and me and 2 for each alm and dinner
And 1 U for every 10g of CH to add in one of the 4 meals
Only when they know how the 2 applications act in my body will be controlling everything well.
I can be very methodical in the function of knowing well what to do before the rupture of this routine
I think it will take me for a couple of weeks repeating meals or with variations that do not affect the amounts of PR gr and CH at the rate of
1500 kcal daily add 2 collations according to need.
Echomically it represents a daily expense of approx between 3 and 4 $ or 2 to € 3
Greetings

Sample of the nutritional values ​​of this amount of foods taken from labels and Internet tables.
Here I see if vitamins, minerals, trace elements are missing and this is the possibility of seeing that changing or adequate vitamin supplement can be used to replace what the sea fruits provide that are usually expensive here

Without physical activity and without Irapida before the snack had 113 and before dinner 126
And this despite the fact that before breakfast I had 143 and before lunch 120 having gone through 250 all decreased I attribute it to the I detect
Now I must find out if the 110 that raised in 2 hours, how many Uspart should take to climb only half, that is 60
And to compensate for the fasting value that was 30 more than the normal one that reaches after dinner 5.5 r and starting from a blood glucose before dinner
Without fast and with 14 u detemir

Any food you eat needs fast insulin.
Basal insulin determines (I use Levemir) lasts between 14 and 16 hours.I put 2 doses, one at 22:00 (7ud) and a reinforcement of 2 units at 12:00.
With the basal you can only control what happens between hours, you could not make yourself fast but you would need a lot of physical exercise to burn all the hydrate you eat and still would not be enough.

The important thing is to have a balanced and healthy diet, low in fat and exercise.Use the insulin you need according to the hydrate you eat to stay below 130-140 at 2 hours of eating and avoid being below 80.

You have to learn that the body is not a clock.One day with 4 rations they rise to 280 with their usual insulin dose and the next day they stay in 130. Estresic state, other conditions, hormones etc. make glucose not have a mathematical behavior.

"Any food you eat needs fast insulin"
"With the basal you can only control what happens between hours, you could not get fast but you would need a lot of physical exercise to burn all the hydrate you eat and still would not be enough"

@"Ruthbia" that is what pharmaceuticals have sold us, the truth is that you can be with the basal perfectly without killing you to exercise, all you have to do is replace the units that you get quickly to the slow insulin.
I had told my endo years that I refused to prick 4 times a day, and we added units to the Lantus that put me at that time, going from 15 to 30, I currently use 34u from Toujeo.Of course, I get fast when as rice or pasta and celebrations, which you always spend.Additionally I run 4 times a week and mountaineering (now only tomorrow) on weekends, not everyone can.The glucose climbs regularly running or removed the hydrates in the next meal, before adding quickly.Advantages I have: drastic reduction of very slight punctures and hypos.

@"Mario69" If you manage to remove the fast on dinners, great.I started like this, taking off the fast from dinner, because it is the least important food.Otherwise the values ​​you have are quite good.Anyway, take it easy and you see little by little, Ruthbia is guiding you quite well, over time and once you are more stabilized you will see that regime you want to continue, if you have more freedom with meals and click you quickly in each one in eachof it or be restricting a puncture at the expense of controlling more the hydrates you eat.

Thanks friends of the forum for your advice
I had given a screenshot to the topics, which are many and interesting to orient
Yesterday I start reading in order all comments after passing through a bit of rations a little
I started by the first of the list that I assumed me from the forum that is Freestyle's
I imagined that there could be something like that in the first world, only that prices are far from my possibilities and I am accustomed to clicking
As the date does not appear because of what is said to be some years ago
They help but I don't know what page this year will be so according to the topic I choose the most recent
I would like to change so that only Mario6 appears and not the topic with which I start
Apart I would like the start data and insulin values ​​to use down

Or are actually the comments last week since 3/7
Freestyle I think I'm going for 10 pages and I see answers that seem to be years ago
Like the purchase of Salvador del Libre for his mother
The same very interesting all even the issues of marketing medicines and meters and SS