Claim your rights

In a rule of law as in which the majority of those who write around here, there are some channels to claim what is entitled by law.

What the laws do not contemplate and it is necessary or we believe that it can be improved, we can claim it with lollipops, articles in the media, collection of signatures, demonstrations, and surely many more other ways.Long is the process and requires a lot of listening and work in collaboration and that each one does what can do better.

All this, if we do not do it in writing through the official channels, does not serve for the purposes of acting and taking measures of the public-economic powers.It does not work because people who work in health centers and hospitals do not decide on the material, for example;They can only do what they allow them, to some extent (with greater or lesser kindness it is another issue).If they claimed for the right channels, and if people in this case with diabetes, they do so, public administrations could not claim ignorance or ignorance of problems, they could not put excuses that they do not act because people are happy.

Here are some explanations of the Valencian Association of Diabetes: Link

And here the website of the Generalitat Valenciana with a form.I guess other administrations will also have it.
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Everyone says this does not work;I sometimes get tired and I think it doesn't work either.But any path in life is long, it is a process, it is fruitful after a lot of work and experience ... So what do we lose?Patets just do not use us.Perhaps, if not we others who come behind will not have it so difficult.Let's try to get our needs at the time, in the way we can and from good treatment, and at the same time we show steps in a broader direction, so that these needs are most appropriate and covered.

Hugs,

I live in Barcelona, ​​and I don't know how to do, I just started this disease and I'm already fed up that social security plays with my health not providing me with the material I need, nor the insulin I need, nor the necessary education to live withMy diabetes, nor the quick and necessary access to control a specialist.

Hello @"emily".I do not know who has diagnosed you diabetes or what kind, but it doesn't matter: if you are injected insulin, it seems basic that an endocrine is addressed and facilitate access to nurses who can help you daily or through some course.That said, if you do not have it and your common doctor does not make anything easier or puts problems when you ask, what I would do is a written claim (put anxiety, yes, not have what one needs; but I want to think that we canovercome it trying to stay calm and taking the steps towards what we need, the steps we can).

I have found this website, which you will know, but just in case, where there are contact phones and in the end a link to claim ... I also link it to you:

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I have also seen that they have a website dedicated to diabetes, one more, I suppose, among many in Spain, but maybe they have something interesting Link

On the other hand, there is an option that occurs to me, if you can access: pay a visit with a good private endocrine, ask you to make a report on your health situation in relation to diabetes and your needs, and attach a copy ofThat report to any form or claim writing.On the website of the link that I have put the form is via the Internet, but if you prefer in writing, surely in the care phone that appears they tell you where you can direct it

A hug and encouragement

@"Imara" I am a diabetic since March 2 of this year, among other things they operated and they took me 2/3 of pancreas, I only have my head.

They operated on the private, I always do everything for the private, but when I need insulin, material and diabetological education I went to the public after the operation.As I have not wanted to refer to an endocrine, and the header draHe has not wanted to change them in the electronic recipe, therefore the insulin will not reach me, and the person who dispenses the material refuses to give me the one that is missing.The lancetas does not facilitate them, wants to use a needle by pen, that is to say that they are reused until they finish each pen, which seems little hygienide, and that I do not use more than 6 reactive strips a day.But among those that give error, and extra measurements that I do, they do not arrive, so I have to buy them.Almost € 50 the 50 -strips boat.

With the particular endocrine I made a first visit, and on the 25th I have the 2nd;With the header I have on the 29th, because the 26 have told me not to visit, and to see ...

The nurse who is in charge of diabetological education in the ambulatory is the same that corresponds to me by my header and has helped me little/nothing, because the endocrine has explained to me things that are just the opposite of what she told me.I have not had classes, just a 10 -minute talk with her.Nothing more, they have not proposed anything else, nor have they informed me that there is nothing else.

Thanks for the info :) A hug.

@"Emily", apologize ... I read your post about the operation but today I did not associate the name and did not remember the subject.
Then it seems to me a clear case that the public does not want to know anything about facilitating the life to whom it goes to the private one, apart from the fact that you have a header doctor that boasts stupidity.Try to request the change to another header ... and surely you must have a report of the operation to attach.This seems to me of fear, you must be having a very bad time ... another option that occurs to me, harder it would be to go to the Ombudsman or similar ... although there I am lost in terms of processes.

I hope you serve you properly soon.I wish you the best, thanks to you :-)

I just sent a complaint, to see what happens.On the diabetes website there is no much, and there is a picture that I do not just understand and that attached (the problem is not that I am in Catalan, I am Catalan speaker) says that with medication with medications at risk of hip1 time a week ... Maybe I'm thick, it is likely to give my current degree of stress, but I don't understand it.I attach.

If I go to the private one, it is PQ in the public, it never went well, my mother died because in the SS they cared for poorly;A friend of mine suffered a cerebral stroke from which she has been bad for the same thing, after suffering it they controlled her so badly that the same neurologist who carried her in the San Pablo hospital, told me that if she wanted my friend to recover a littleFor the private one, so I took her to the CyMA clinic, paying because she could not afford it, where they made an exhaustive general exam, they medicated her correctly and sent her to a psychologist to do therapy to recover some affected capabilities,Like empathy.And he recovered everything he could, but had been neglected for months.The bad medication caused a heart injury, which in turn caused the stroke, and after this one outside the hospital, it was deplorable how they treated her.As a result, a health policy was made with a mutua, and since then it only goes to the public for medication.

I don't trust SS, but in this case, at least they give me insulin and the material I need, right?What less!

It is unfortunate to be paying public health and that they treat you like that, and have to pay privately too.

The report already has the SS.The SS has all my health history because I always carry them so that they have record for any eventuality that arises.

Two years ago I had to ask for a change of a doctor, I put a complaint, and they changed it to me, because the dra that I had then, after a back operation that Morfina required, just departure from the hospital, refused to receive me and left me 3Days without morphine, raging.It is a special recipe that only has the SS, and without it the pharmacy does not dispense it.

They are young girls, in my case, who seem fresh out of the faculty.

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imara said:
@"emily", apologize ... I read your post about the operation but today I did not associate the name and did not remember the subject.
Then it seems to me a clear case that the public does not want to know anything about facilitating the life to whom it goes to the private one, apart from the fact that you have a header doctor that boasts stupidity.Try to request the change to another header ... and surely you must have a report of the operation to attach.This seems to me of fear, you must be having a very bad time ... another option that occurs to me, harder it would be to go to the Ombudsman or similar ... although there I am lost in terms of processes.

I hope you serve you properly soon.I wish you the best, thanks to you :-)

Why don't my messages appear in the threads in which I answer?They are appearing in others, as in the latter ... Let's see where the one I am writing now ...

Mia Mia @"emily" I mess up with everyone ... I do not understand ... I am going through the problem of the strips, I live in Córdoba and I do not know if in each autonomous community they dictate a series of rulesWith the theme of the diabetic material ... In my case I have been taking the strips since February ... I stay very short and have juggled so that the nurse of the health center (which is the one that carries the issue of the strips)I put two boxes a month, in fact, tomorrow I have to pay a 50 -strips box than that ... almost 50 turkeys ...
I have explained that I need to look at the glycemia more, that I want to get pregnant and that I want to control the sugar as much as I can afford ... and after .. 3 months based on indignanting me, it has prescribed me for 8 daily glycemies ..But we are going that the boxes that have needed me have eaten them with potatoes.Anyway, hopefully improve your situation and hopefully we don't put so many stones on the way to cope with this disease ..
You can always have as in my case, some fucking pharmaceutical ones, who sometimes do the favor to give you insulin or strips a few days before you have to get it ... Anyway, juggling !!!

patri_caracol said:
my mother @"emily" I mess up with all ... I do not understand ... I am going through the problem of the strips, I live in Córdoba, I live in CórdobaAnd I do not know if in each autonomous community they dictate a series of norms with the issue of the diabetic material ... In my case I have been taking the strips since February ... I stay very short and have juggled so that the nurse of the center of the center ofHealth (which is the one that carries the theme of the strips) puts me two boxes a month, in fact, tomorrow I have to pay a 50 -strips box that then ... almost 50 turkeys ...
I have explained that I need to look at the glycemia more, that I want to get pregnant and that I want to control the sugar as much as I can afford ... and after .. 3 months based on indignanting me, it has prescribed me for 8 daily glycemies ..But we are going that the boxes that have needed me have eaten them with potatoes.Anyway, hopefully improve your situation and hopefully we don't put so many stones on the way to cope with this disease ..
You can always have as in my case, some fucking pharmaceutical ones, who sometimes do the favor to give you insulin or strips a few days before you have to take it out ... Anyway, juggling !!!

It is outrageous.Yes, each box of strips almost € 50 ... is tremendous ... I am not lucky to have a "friendly" pharmacy, without a recipe they do not give me the good morning.

To the SS I only spend the medication, and now the insulin material, which by the way, I believe that the lancets enter some communities, here in Catalonia no, they have to buy the patient.Unfortunately, I am a bad health a few years ago, and all surgical visits and interventions are by private, I do not use public;As I said, I think that at least medications and material should dispense them, to me, and everyone without scratching, they play with our health and there is no right.Maybe they believe we click for pleasure ...

Hopefully you are lucky too!

I have lived from the strips too for some years.Simply because the nurse on duty did not feel like giving me more than a box a month because I said they didn't give it anymore.He simply retired (God keeps her in his glory) and the new one gives me all the ones I ask without putting the slightest paste.
You can put a claim in your same health center.What I would do first is to ask your endocrine for a sheet where the number of strips you need per month is indicated (+ one more box just in case) and you stay with a copy as voucher, and give it to the nurse, this usuallybe enough.But if it remains the same or if you spare you a single box per month, in your same health center you fill out a claim sheet with all the nurse's data (you also stay with a copy), you will see how the nonsense ends up.

I read you and stir ... I have in my card signed by my endocrine 200 strips a month.They give me 100 because I carry the free and I do not need more and I trust that my 100 that I do not use, they give them to people who need.

In my center of Madrid my header nurse told me that it has assigned 15,000 strips for the entire center and do not arrive with this number to all diabetics, if they are passed, the following year they reduce 15% !!!As they always pass, every year they assign less.It is a loop.
Ah!Type 2 diabetics do not give them glucometers, so they are a majority.

What I don't understand is because the needles show me when my nurse is not, if they are cheap !!!The diabetological nurses of endocrinology The first thing they tell you is that each lancet and needle is for unitary and exclusive use.Nothing to reuse.

I also have no electronic recipe for insulin, but as the material distributes it monthly, I ask everything at once.For insulin they don't put any problem.Of course, every month ask for an appointment, go there to lose the afternoon, etc.I also take the opportunity to carry the toxic waste container of the needles and give me another.So I leave the center's load.

Have you tried to put a complaint at the College of Physicians?I did it years ago and it worked.

How odd!!Normally it is the other way around, when you do not spend everything you have assigned to budget, it is how much a percentage is discounted on the next budget.I speak of public administration, normally the agencies have a series of expenses and it is a super rare thing that you comment.If they are removed for spending the following year they will take away more and more will happen, until a time they could not give them.Normally penalties are usually the other way around, if they don't spend them.What a shame, right?

Well, I think that if they don't arrive the following year they will have to give more or at least the same

That would be logical, to give them more but it seems that it is not.
They make them cabal to reach everyone.