Do you know what are the most common lies that diabetic patients tell?

Although it is considered by many an immoral act that eventually brings consequences, generally negative, they go to them to hide inappropriate behaviors for health;That is, it is very frequent that the doctor be lied to.

The patient is the one who resorts to the lie, due to the fear generated by the apparent authority of the specialist, which previously pointed to them a series of steps to improve their physical condition, according to diabetesbienestarysalud.

Generally, every time they go to consultation, patients always want to get out "well freed" from their diagnosis, especially if you go to a weight check, body mass index or glucose measures, that is, where the indications were to change habitsfood and exercise.

1. "Since I started my treatment as healthy"

This is the most used lie in the medical office, which can lead to a little healthy relationship between food and patient, since he first deceives himself by not being aware of how bad he eats;which will lead to false statements to the doctor.

Consequence: In these cases it becomes a vicious circle, since it is impossible to lose weight and the doctor does not understand why treatment is not showing positive results;When the real cause is that indications have not been followed to the letter.

2. "I always take my medications"

This lie is usually said by those patients who need medications for life, that is, those who suffer from chronic diseases, mainly diabetes, since it implies not only oral medications, but also injected solution.

Consequence: If you do not do so, your glucose levels will never be controlled and you can develop diabetes complications.

3. "My glucose day by day"

When this is not true, neither the doctor nor the patient will know what are the things that cause low or high in glucose levels.

Consequence: The treatment will not be the most optimal and there will be no good control.

4. "I don't smoke"

Precisely this habit is the one that costs the most work, since nicotine produces pleasure and relaxation effects.

Consequences: smoking can raise the risk of complications in people with diabetes, such as hypertension, retinopathy, as well as problems in arteries and circulation.

5. "Every day I get up to exercise"

Everyday lie, mainly to adopt habits, which begin to acquire when you are an adult, so they cost work, especially when they imply an extra impulse.

CONSEQUENCES: It is not enough with good nutrition, so that insulin works properly, it is necessary to put our body in motion.

Ends with lies

These are some lies that are usually said during a medical consultation, perhaps some sounded more than others, but in the end most we turn to them to hide the lack of commitment.

It is necessary to remember that part of a successful treatment is a consequence of a good relationship and communication with our doctor, who should always be spoken with honesty.

Original Source: Diabetesbienestarysalud

It sounds more like exclusive excuses of type2.

Type 1 I doubt that there are many who stop taking medicines.

Nor that sugar are not measured daily and also if you eat badly you have to look more sugar, because it varies much more, so you usually have no choice but to eat well.

Well, you are right @"sherpa41", although it is general of diabetes, it fits much more with types 2.;)

fer said:
although it is considered by many an immoral act that eventually brings, generally negative consequences, they go to them to hide inappropriate behaviors for health;That is, it is very frequent that the doctor be lied to.

The patient is the one who resorts to the lie, due to the fear generated by the apparent authority of the specialist, which previously pointed to them a series of steps to improve their physical condition, according to diabetesbienestarysalud.

Generally, every time they go to consultation, patients always want to get out "well freed" from their diagnosis, especially if you go to a weight check, body mass index or glucose measures, that is, where the indications were to change habitsfood and exercise.

1. "Since I started my treatment as healthy"

This is the most used lie in the medical office, which can lead to a little healthy relationship between food and patient, since he first deceives himself by not being aware of how bad he eats;which will lead to false statements to the doctor.

Consequence: In these cases it becomes a vicious circle, since it is impossible to lose weight and the doctor does not understand why treatment is not showing positive results;When the real cause is that indications have not been followed to the letter.

2. "I always take my medications"

This lie is usually said by those patients who need medications for life, that is, those who suffer from chronic diseases, mainly diabetes, since it implies not only oral medications, but also injected solution.

Consequence: If you do not do so, your glucose levels will never be controlled and you can develop diabetes complications.

3. "My glucose day by day"

When this is not true, neither the doctor nor the patient will know what are the things that cause low or high in glucose levels.

Consequence: The treatment will not be the most optimal and there will be no good control.

4. "I don't smoke"

Precisely this habit is the one that costs the most work, since nicotine produces pleasure and relaxation effects.

Consequences: smoking can raise the risk of complications in people with diabetes, such as hypertension, retinopathy, as well as problems in arteries and circulation.

5. "Every day I get up to exercise"

Everyday lie, mainly to adopt habits, which begin to acquire when you are an adult, so they cost work, especially when they imply an extra impulse.

CONSEQUENCES: It is not enough with good nutrition, so that insulin works properly, it is necessary to put our body in motion.

Ends with lies

These are some lies that are usually said during a medical consultation, perhaps some sounded more than others, but in the end most we turn to them to hide the lack of commitment.

It is necessary to remember that part of a successful treatment is a consequence of a good relationship and communication with our doctor, who should always be spoken with honesty.

Original source: Diabetesbienestarysalud

It tells us a great nutritionist specializing in metabolism and obesity, which always in this diabetes must be proposed, but these goals must be based on truth because otherwise we go towards a disappointment.In the issue of diabetes there have been unreal goals, which are not possible to achieve, such as trying to control diabetes through medication.It is not possible to control diabetes throughPurely use medication such as the main resource because the medication, although many times it is necessary, is not educating the diabetic patient and is a “dead end” that only benefits the pharmaceutical companies .
As much as they want to make us believe that the diabetic solution is to medicate its high glucose levels to reduce this this is not a truth.Dedicating the patient purely to "control their glucose levels" is a lie that is part of the culture of trying to solve health problems with some "miraculous pill" and without assuming responsibility for understanding diabetes or causes of lack of controlIn it.The only real solution is to educate the patient and teach him to understand his diabetes so that he can control diabetes instead of diabetes controlling him or it.
On the other hand, "diabetic education" offered is based on theories full of holes with bad results.Theories such as the "calorie theory" and fat control while diabetic is excessive.Doctors try to do the best they can medical the symptoms of a diabetes uncontrolled by the incorrect diet.Diabetic patients are told about "counting calories", eating many small meals per day, using a "balanced diet" that no one has defined or a complex system of "exchange units" between foods that none understands.
Out of what the doctor studied at the University of Medicine for long years, and his undoubted good intention to help, the only additional tool he has to achieve this is his medical recipe book and the incessant promotion of new medicines of pharmaceutical companies.
In truth, you have to have hurt doctors who spend most of the day hearing mainly "bad news" because their patients continue to get worse or need higher doses of medicines for diabetes control

Before the discovery of insulin, one of the most common dietary treatments of diabetes mellitus was a high fat diet and low carbohydrates.A review of Frederick M. Allen's records shows that a diet with 70% fat and 8% carbohydrates could eliminate glucosuria among hospitalized patients.It is necessary to reconsider the role of the high diet in fat and low in carbohydrates for the treatment of diabetes mellitus. Link
The benefits of carbohydrate restriction in diabetes are immediate and well documented.Reserves about their long -term efficiency or safety are conjectures and are not based on evidence.Carbohydrate restriction reliably reduces blood glucose, does not require weight loss (although it is what facilitates it most) and leads to the reduction or elimination of medication.
Infinity of studies that we linked to you, have shown that this type of restrictive diets have a much greater success in diabetic people than those that focus on HC high intake and calorie reduction, ligating it at the same time to a greater reduction of levelsof blood glucose.
I am sure that all these studies are known, but someone insists not to make them known, for pure greed, and people continue to kill them instead of healing them.
The ketone diets are, recommended in type II diabetes, but I tell you again that not by students who have been financed by the Pharma-Mafia, they continue to get sick people with their advice based on the consumption of carbodrogas to diabetics.
To enter a state of ketosis, HC intakes should be limited around 20 g daily;In this way our body would throw from fat and ketone bodies as fuel instead of using only glucose.
Based on these data we could generalize that a ketone diet includes about 70% fat and less than 10% hydrates.
All scientific evidence (study, study, study) that have compared the use of ketone diets with other types of food have concluded similarly, the ketone diet in addition to being safe and not harmful, it is more beneficial than a hypocaloric diet in patients in patientswith DM type 2.

Here you have the links of the studies mentioned above to give the translator since they are in English.

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Do you make a high and low -fat diet in hydrates?
Can you walk your results?
I don't believe anything about those reports.... yesterday they told me that in Granada it is the only place in Spain where they cure diabetes ....
All conjectures not tested in the long term.

Jose María Recio said:

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This study is interesting, the other two that you put on Type 2. It is very curious to see a scientific review of how diabetes was before the discovery of insulin.Does anyone have access to the full article?

I agree that low hydrates diets are the best treatment for diabetics and there is a lot of scientific evidence in this regard (especially there are studies with type 2 but also some with type 1 and all with very good results).In type 1 accompanied by insulin of course, although the needs fall a lot.And in type 2 you can normally dispense with medication.From my personal experience and other cases that I know, I think it is not necessary to reach a diet as strict as Jose María says to obtain the benefits especially in type 1. I about 50 -60 grams a day of hydrates (one day one daylittle more) and I have very stable glucose virtually all the time between 70 - 120 even after meals.But there are much more strict people who do what José Maria with very good results.In fact, the amounts that he commented on it is more or less those proposedHigh hydrates diets.
I think that more studies should be done in this line because it is very likely that the official recommendations are wrong (I am 100% convinced).And every time you see more people who begin to see it in the same way and that changing the food achieves good control, well not the one who tell us that it is good we have between 6 and 7, which is not and ends up causingComplications after many years of evolution to almost all.

I also have very stable glucose and about 20 portions of carbohydrates per day.Insulin is for that and with the adjusted treatment there is no reason to make a restrictive diet in carbohydrates.Nobody can get into what each one eats, that is clear, but carbohydrates are absolutely necessary to provide enough energy so that the organism develops its vital functions (and of course I do not speak of pastries or junk food, whichIt is not good for anyone, whether or not you have diabetes) ...

Each one has their way of seeing it.I believe that good control is to be like a non -diabetic or almost.Everything else can bring you long -term complications although they take many years to appear.And I eating little hydrate with it without much effort except specific days of illness or meals away from home.Eating a lot of hydrate I don't see it possible and less using bolis, the same with a bomb could.I don't think there because I haven't tried it.
And that the hydrates are necessary because I do not agree at least that so many are necessary.Some hydrate is necessary but with which vegetables, nuts and some other fruit or legume are more than enough.There is a lot of scientific evidence in this regard and many people who have been eating less than 50 grams per day of hydrate for years and is perfectly (diabetics and non -diabetic).There are even a athlete who make low hydrate diets and do not lack energy.
As everything is another option for those who want it.What is missing is information so that each one freely chooses the option that interests you the most.There are many false myths and very afraid of the people who consider this option and is not justified.That is not the majority option does not mean that it is a bad option or that it will cause problems because to date there is no scientific evidence that it is.

Yesssica_a said:
each one has their way of seeing it.I believe that good control is to be like a non -diabetic or almost.Everything else can bring you long -term complications although they take many years to appear.And I eating little hydrate with it without much effort except specific days of illness or meals away from home.Eating a lot of hydrate I don't see it possible and less using bolis, the same with a bomb could.I don't think there because I haven't tried it.
And that the hydrates are necessary because I do not agree at least that so many are necessary.Some hydrate is necessary but with which vegetables, nuts and some other fruit or legume are more than enough.There is a lot of scientific evidence in this regard and many people who have been eating less than 50 grams per day of hydrate for years and is perfectly (diabetics and non -diabetic).There are even a athlete who make low hydrate diets and do not lack energy.
As everything is another option for those who want it.What is missing is information so that each one freely chooses the option that interests you the most.There are many false myths and very afraid of the people who consider this option and is not justified.That is not the majority option does not mean that it is a bad option or that it will cause problems because to date there is no scientific evidence that it is.

The need for carbohydrates varies depending on each person, some will need more and others less, but if you have to eat carbohydrates, everyone needs them.I do not speak of theories, or false myths, nor of risks of cetosis or anything like that (although I have my opinion about it, but I have not expressed it), I only speak of the need that the organism has, that of all, that of all, that of allof metaborizing carbohydrates to carry out their vital functions and daily activities (in addition to providing us with energy, in general).I only talk about that, but I insist, I agree with you: I think we have enough maturity and enough knowledge to make the decisions we create appropriately and absolutely no one has to judge anyone for it.

What I believe (and there I do not agree on what you have said) is that of course it is possible to take enough carbohydrates and maintain good blood glucose control.I do it, and many in this forum too, and we also maintain glycosylated below the famous 6.5%.

Well everything depends on what you consider good control.For me it is less than 6 and the ideal less than 5.5 which would have a non -diabetic.More than 6 ends up giving complications over the years so I don't think it can be said that it is good control.It is not bad but not good either.

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Interesting article.Before the discovery of insulin they used low diets in hydrates and alcohol (whiskey) as a treatment.

Yesssica_a said:
well everything depends on what you consider good control.For me it is less than 6 and the ideal less than 5.5 which would have a non -diabetic.More than 6 ends up giving complications over the years so I don't think it can be said that it is good control.It is not bad but not good either.

Regarding this thread, one of the most common lies to your endocrin@ is to lie in the number of hypoglycemia that you have had in the last 4-6 months and we do not realize that we only deceive ourselves.

And with a child?I say x the development of growth, how would it be little hydrate?The nutritionist indicated my 5 -year -old child breakfast and snack 50 CH and lunch and dinner 60 ch., ...

I have read a lot about it... The brain is the organ that needs the most sugar.It is calculated that 130 grams a day.That is why endocrine tell you that less than 13 rations should not be eaten.
After each one acts as he considers.
They can have 5.5 eating 15 rations.I have them and as more than 13 rations, and sport is not my passion, so I don't burn much in this regard.It is simply a matter of insulin and slow absorption, especially vegetables and fruits.

@"SIGSAUER" I think that avoiding 100% hypos using insulin is impossible to take the same we have 7 than 5.5.If you are wrong to calculate hydrates, it makes you more or less effect because of the place where you click or a thousand more things can give you a hypo.I have hypos like everyone else, but I have no more since I have less than 6 that was between 6 and 7. rather quite the opposite, I have less than before and much softer.I have not dropped from 50 in any hicc as many months.
The only hypos I have are for miscalculating the fast and that would happen to me the same eating more hydrate.I do not like to weigh things and calculate the eye so the error is more likely and I change the sensitivity to insulin when I do sports so it is always difficult to hit the fast dose.But errors are smaller when you use lower rapid doses.
I take the Free data and there are all hypos that there are so that with respect to that I could lie even if I wanted and is delighted with my graphics.
If you want you can search on Facebook "Diabetes Type1 Low Carb" and you will see that there are a lot of accounts, most children with low carbage and flat graphics without almost hypos and we have between 5 and 6. And in a child I think it ismuch more difficult than in an adult.

@"Dani76" For children it is the same as for adults.If you are interested in informing you about the subject, write me a private and I pass books and links to read information.There are also groups on Facebook of people who follow this type of food and many of them are parents of children with diabetes.Most are in English but I have recently discovered one in Spanish quite active and with many people.I personally know a girl with low hydrates diet that is growing perfectly healthy and without any problem and we have less than 6.

@"Ruthbia" The 130 grams makes no sense.If that were so, how can you survive without eating several days?If the body were so fragile we would have already extinguished.Before agriculture was invented, in winter very little was ate because there was not and survived without any problem.There is still some Inuit tribe (Eskimos of Greenland) that eat minimum amounts of hydrate (10% or less of the calories) of the little vegetables in those areas and survive perfectly.How do you explain that if the theory that the brain needs so much glucose is true?If you need some glucose but much less than 130gr.And anyway the body has other ways to obtain it by glycogenesis if you need it and do not give it to food.And the brain also feeds on ketone bodies.And if you are also looking to find studies of type 1 diabetics that improve control and reduce hypo with low hydrates diets.In another comment from another thread I put a couple of them.And with type 2 there are many more in those who manage to leave the medication.

Each one who follows the diet that seems to him but I think it is important to know other options that maybe someone can help better control.

If you want you can search on Facebook "Diabetes Type1 Low Carb" and you will see that there are a lot of accounts, most children with low carbage and flat graphics without almost hypos and we have between 5 and 6. And in a child II think it is much more difficult than in an adult.

To me see 4 graphics in a competition of mothers and fathers to see who of the children has the best graph and the flattest apart from the most beautiful does not show me anything about a diet, a glycosylated hemoglobin or on any other topic.We would have to see the graphs of the last 4-5 months with all hypers and hypos.Generally we all upload our best photos, included in this forum, it is sad but it is usually so, without more.-

I also think that control could be facilitated with less hydrates and less fast.You can replace paste or potatoes with vegetables, for example, but strict diets have their inconveniences, also psychological.I prefer a balance between the physical and the psychic.And this is very important in children, because it could later cause a very dangerous rebellion.