Keto diet

Hello,

I am Alex, I would like to comment with people from the forum experiences with low carbohydrate or keto diet.

They diagnosed me two and a half years ago with 40 years and from the beginning intuitively eliminated almost all carbohydrates and increases the daily exercise, which I already did.

The Endocrine of the SS tells me that if it works, but I have to say that it seems very little competent.

Does anyone follow this type of way of eating here?

What is your result?

Sport problems?

Colestterol problems?

Today 10 UU of slow and 3uu at each meal, almost total elimination of carbohkdratos, I make federated triathlon and training daily.

Could you tell experiences, please?

Thanks in advance!

Hello Álex.
I am curious and many doubts about the keto diet.
The fact is that I think that if you still have it for a long time, it is you who should know if it goes well, at least to you.
How are you going from Glico?And cholesterol, uric acid, liver levels?
It is that if you have everything right and you feel good, then good sign.
But if as they say that diet decomposes levels, then you should have bad results in the analytics.
That's why I ask you.

Hello.
I understand that I am going well, the last glycosiladI do a lot and quite demanding;The rest of the parameters within normality.I understand that I am still on a honeymoon, I follow a couple of American doctors who suffer from the same as us and control the issue very well, and I have learned from them since as I said the endocrine is quite improvable.
I am assaulted and that is why I ask for experiences for the forum, I am scared of issues such as possible hypoggen during sport, I understand that I am ketoadapted but still lowers me during exercise, especially in swimming.
Thanks in advance

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hello.
I understand that I am going well, the last glycosiladI do a lot and quite demanding;The rest of the parameters within normality.I understand that I am still on a honeymoon, I follow a couple of American doctors who suffer from the same as us and control the issue very well, and I have learned from them since as I said the endocrine is quite improvable.
I am assaulted and that is why I ask for experiences for the forum, I am scared of issues such as possible hypoggen during sport, I understand that I am ketoadapted but still lowers me during exercise, especially in swimming.
Thanks in advance

Your perfect glucosilada.The typical HDL of an athlete, which is a large cardioprotective.53 of triglycerids is dreamy (very liquid blood, at all thick), that is, your cardiovascular system is luxury, ideal.Apparently, the low carbohydrate diet is working.

I am not a doctor or nutritionist, but I have several cardiologists and I talk a lot with them, I read a lot.

Check the glucose for several days when you wake up, 2 hours after breakfast, 2 hours after lunch and 2 hours after eating / dinner and before bedtime, for several days, and you will know your levels.

Also a freestyle or similar sensor for 15 days to have a more real graph of the whole day, and thus make sure 100%.

It would be useful to check uric acid (it rises in the Keto diet), although it will surely give you in range, as well as the ultrasensitive C -reactive protein, since you exercise and this makes your body balance everything and have an advantage situation.

Hello delighted to greet you, many people are surprised when you tell them that you do not eat HC, but after living with them with type 1 diabetes, it is when you can assess what control they give you, you have to prove that control brings you to live in Keto and CetosisNutritional, in my case, I can tell you that I am a professional athlete for more than 20 years and the change is surprising, an eye is my case, each one can go otherwise.

The balance for me is more than important, less insulin expense, you forget the hypo and all these fears, the tranquility of not thinking about your next meal, of course your low blood glucose or rises as it is logical, but they are hyposPhysical, not chemical by rapid insulin.

Diabetes, the times in which we live, everything changes and we must learn with the tools we have.

All the best.

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I believe that the 90% of those in this forum are not professional athletes, so eye with those values,

I carry a low d diet and it is the best for me to control the disease.It is not total ketogenic but is low in hydrates.

If Alberto is clear, but there is no greater profession than knowing what is doing well, it gives you energy and dreamy glycemia, living in those Russian mountains, in my case I do not want them.

A style, way of life that brings another path.

Thanks for your contributions, it is appreciated
.In my case it is not a professional sport but if devotion, the preparation for cholesterol is low since as I mentioned I have improved my lipid profile, anyway I will make an analysis of the fractions of the LDL that I will pay since in the analyticsIt is estimated.I don't cost me especially to feed Low Carb or Keto, if I had to eat lively every day,
I don't like it, knowing that I would keep everything correctly.
To athletes, there is some kind of sport that lowers glucose?170mgl and finish 69mgl, with isotonic and banana for training .....

Thank you

@ALER

My analytics is even rarely.I have the triglycerides in 29. The HDL in 122 and the Q LDL (the Q call bad cholesterol) in 65!

According to my internist and my endocrine, it is pure genetic.Regular food and sport help, but such rare values ​​are genetic,

I have a relatively low diet in carbohydrates.But not keto.I avoid the carbohydrates type bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, and I like to eat fruit and vegetables.They feel good.I am from the opinion of which you have to eat of everything in moderation but the more varied the better.What I avoid how the plague are saturated fats.And almost never as pre -made food.I steal everything.Even if it is something fast.And now with Covid, I do teleworking and as at home.Even healthier!

Here in the forum I think I remember many chats on the subject and someone commented that a group on Facebook.But I can't find it.

All the best

Hi @Alerr, look at this Facebook group, surely you can clarify many doubts Link

At home we carry with keto (although rather low in carbohydrates) about 15 months.My partner is the one who has diabetes.

We are great, we are not very athletes, the truth and the analytics do very well.To me personally the uric acid lowered me from 8 to 6 (the maximum is over 7).

Hi @Aler
Interesting post!
My case is similar to yours.I am 45 years old and at 40 I debuted with DBT type 1.
I have a 5.9 glyc and cholesterol OK.
I do triathlon, I train every day double shift and I can not imagine being able to ingest carbohydrates.
I have healthy relatives who do the keto diet and are great in sports and health.
But in my case being diabetic I can't imagine making a bike or swimming background without compensating with hydrates.
I do not understand how to replace glycogen reserves.
I would be very interested in being able to do the diet, so any experience you can share will be great.
Success!
Juan

Good day Alex ... when they diagnosed me (15 years ago) I tried to keep it at bay with a similar diet: I reduced all the carbohydrates to a minimum ... I spent almost 2 years like that, with almost nothing of flours, pasta or anything similar... The negative point is that I lost a lot of weight and the reality is that the body needs a certain amount of carbohydrates for days, and more in your case than you train very strong ... be careful with that issue.Greetings.Alexander.

Hello Alemeil.I can only tell my experience, and it is that carbohydrates are little necessary once you are adapted to using fat as a source of energy.In addition, gluconeogenesis can generate glucose for those cells and metabolic routes that need these.I have controlled my times and I assure you that they have not come down when I was not diabetic and used carbohydrates to sack.It is quite studied, for me a reference of all this was Keyth Runyan (I think it is written like this) Look for it on YouTube, it is in English but it is very enlightening ....

Regarding Jmvallejo, I can tell you that I can make a very very fasting lying, then control my ketonic bodies and everything in order, I have reached a maximum of 1.5Mmoles after 3 hours of race and bike and 19h of fasting.Regarding glycogen, apparently the type of metabolism renews it, in addition to improving VO2 and aerobic capacity.
About what you want we can speak, at the level of clear experience, for me unbeatable

Hello colleagues,
Although the Keto diet is fashionable, we must not forget that the presence of ketones in the urine means that they go through the kidney and that injures these organs, not immediately, but over time.The presence of ketones is not advisable for more than 6 months according to some authors and 1 month according to others.In any case, such a low HDC level should not be maintained than the presence of ketones in urine.
Greetings

Hi Peternut.I would not speak with so much roundness about the damages of ketones, in fact there are authors and studies that indicate that they are highly beneficial, as always, in moderate levels energy substrate, anti -inflammatory, cerebral metabolic, in fact they sell the ketones in saline to facilitateCetosis.It is clear that having more than 5 mmolos of BHB begins to be problematic and that 10 mmols There is a possibility of ketoacidosis, many authors indicate the need for high blood glucose, but at those levels I would not play.With regard to the damage of the ketone bodies to the kidney, I had never heard something like that, and I have read a lot on the subject, please you could tell me the metabolic foundation or book where you took that info, I would like to know your I am wrong.
The liver generates BHB and other ketones on an empty stomach, I do not have risk, I think there is some damage to these more metabolic substrates in our case but, honestly I believe that because of ketoacidosis, but the problem of ketoacidosis is not the toxicity of theketones but the imbalance of electrolytes by decreasing the pH of the blood and the loss of electrolytes ....
I can only talk about my experience, and I can only say that for me they are all advantages, sport for me is essential and each and every one of the blood parameters have improved.
I feel the sheet that I have given you, I swell about studying on the subject in confinement.
Greetings

I insist
You have to eat a little of everything and in moderation.But everything.
@ALER you eat vegetables and fruits?I hope so.And what are they?Carbohydrates and very healthy.And I hope you also take chickpeas, lentils and beans.If you don't make a big mistake.
You have to eat depending on our needs, but varied, without excesses, but a little of everything.
All the best

Let's see, I don't want to go into personalized sterile debates, everyone who thinks and does what you think best.I take a lot of vegetables, a lot, none of an starchy nature.Spinach, avocado, lettuce, cabbage, brocoli, tomato, artichoke, tomato, I can continue like this.My diet is based on vegetables and fish and nuts, I assure you that as especially well.Not as fruits if it is not during my premieres.We could discuss much about the healthy of current fruits, as well as about legumes and others, I do not take legumes, they do not feel bad but I do not believe them necessary.
On saturated fats, their problem is very much under discussion, but my diet is fundamentally Mediterranean, although I do not proscribe them.
I asked in the thread about experiences with this way of eating or diet, I do not enter into scientific or technical debates of whether it is healthy or not, I already made my composition of place, and forgive if I did proselytism, but associate carbohydrates (monomers or polymersof glucose and fructose) and health in a diabetic forum ...... I don't know.

@ALER
It is worth each one to do what you want with your body.It is not about making sterile debates but about exchanging opinions and experiences.I do not try to convince you of anything.You are very clear.

The only thing that I do not like your way of eating is the practice absence of fruits and the elimination of legumes.It doesn't seem like a good option.Like an excess of fat and proteins.Any nutrition expert would tell you.I just hope that your long -term health does not remain.That shows in the long term.But well, you go to the endocrine regularly and if you notice any intestinal problem or lack of vitamins or something weird in your blood or urine analytics will tell you.I imagine that you also make full checks.Take care of yourself