Fast insulin ratios

Hello!!

I wanted to ask you a question to see if you can illuminate me ...

As I am new in this, the educator installed me an application to calculate the insulin dose based on the amount of chations that I will eat ....

I have as a sensitivity factor: 80-70-80 and I inject approx.1.10ud for breakfast, 1.50ud for food and 0.60ud for dinner ....

I would like to know how I can calculate the dose of insulin that I have to inject, without depending on an application.

I tell you what happened to me yesterday: I ate at noon 4r of lentils (I know they are slow absorption) and 1r of bread peaks;He offered me 7.5Ud of insulin, I injected it and did not keep the 15min.Waiting because I was 102 (novorapid use) when I started to eat and thought that if I wouldn't get off very soon ... and less badly I did it!

When I had punctured I started with the lowness (and the happy application indicated that I still had a lot of insulin acting);I tried to temper my nerves, because for more inri, the sensor was annoyed (it is already the third one that is bothering me followed at 8-9 days of use).I took 1/4 glucose pill, I waited 15min.I took another 1/4 and 3 bread piquitos ..... until the lentils and what I had taken began to act .... The truth that when I recovered I stayed all afternoon at very good levels.

But I get the "shit" of seeing that I do not stop going down and that I still have insulin ... and if I happen to what, then, it gives me the rush (it has already happened to me 2 times more), soYesterday I didn't want to spend too much with the glucose pills and I was cautious.

Other times I have eaten lentils, I have waited the 15min.And it has not happened to me .... It also happened to me with the Russian salad and another day with something I don't remember, ...

Any trick or advice?

Because the truth, I spend a very bad time and I am taking fear of injecting too many units ....

Thank you very much in advance!

On Friday I go to my endocrine to see my first post-sitting treatment of 3 months in a row with insulin, I have to admit that as I have downloaded it, I have made it, I have a gly of 6.1, but I fear that I have anemia because I haveHemoglobin, erythrocytes, hematocritos, ... otherwise it seems that everything is fine, I am surprisingly the triglycerides in value 76 (concentration of a child between 2-9 years).
Do you know any book or something you can learn more from food?I do not allow whims and I do not know if there is any trick to be able to eat me from so much as something for which it drool without giving me a sugar.
Leo and people see that you eat a croissant, a Magdalena, ... but I do not know how to drive to eat things without putting myself at 220, eating things that I had to give up .... in fact I have lost weightMuch, this summer 2 kilos less.

Do you put fast insulin?Because I without fast insulin that I do not wear when I want to eat something for the moment of eating it and going to exercise but we go lacking then it is great even if I get off.

Edito, I've seen you get fast.Well, maybe they can tell you but you would have to calculate many things, hydrates, fats, correct maybe ... Let's see if they help you 😅

@Nila .... I don't know how you calculate it ... also for any application?I am type 1 ... Fats not as anything, zero sausages or things of those, meat only chicken, I do not like the pig or the veal.The truth is that to carry this well a master's degree.

@Cassie: I don't use any application.When I debuted, these applications did not exist.I had to learn that if I ate x rations of HC for example for breakfast, I needed x fast insulin units and also calculate that proportion in food and dinner that in my case is quite different.If the application you use causes you anguish when you have a descent, you better not look at it too much and solve your hypoglycemia.Keep in mind that if the descent occurs when eating is that you have been too fast, you will have to lower the dose if you eat that same amount of HC of that concrete food (in your case, lentils).

@Ricki21 Thanks, I thought that maybe, there was a rule to calculate it .... is that without the application I am quite lost.On Friday I have a visit with the endocrine and the educator, I will ask her, to see if they clarify something else ...

@Cassie, years ago the application was to point everything on paper and see what could be done.
You pointed, fast doses, controls before and after, food ... and you learn at the same time.
There are meals that are repeated and you know what to do.
Do not be afraid of those hypos, before the body was detected and took a juice.
Nor does it have to leave perfect, the ups and downs will continue to leave, many times they cannot be avoided, but the important thing is the average control.

I use social diabetes, I don't know if it will have put the same.The truth is that it helps a lot and calculates the action time of my insulin (I use Fiasp, which begins to act before Novorapid, but the same lasts).Sometimes he has saved me from correcting having an active insulin ... if you see that you need any change, it is best to approach the endocrinology nurse.Surely he knows how to help you well even if you have no appointment with the specialist at that time.

And the day you eat lentils you have to make the app and decide to put one unity less.There are meals that I know I will need more or less than what it tells me and I punctuate me differently from what it advises me ... In the end the app does not see the dish, you yes.

And what @nila says, that there are hydrates, proteins, fats ... not everything rises glucose while insulin acts.It is a roll at the beginning, but little by little you know your body and how it reacts.And then there is what I call "files x" that you do not know where they come from ... Do not believe that this is 2+2 = 4, sometimes 2+2 are 6 because yes, because our body is a bit cocoon: D

Much encouragement!At first you are very lost, but one day you will see that you calculate the rations by eye, you click automatically and you will realize that you already have it internalized.

@Regina I appreciate your words, I don't even want to imagine what you have been in ... without sensors, without everything, ... I think I would have sunk ...

Thanks tam for your spirits !!I also use Social Diabetes .... And the truth is that it succeeds me a lot, but when I enter hiccups with active insulin and I see in the application that I still have 3ud and a half, 4, I don't know how to act and I enterin panic.In fact today I have lowered the ratio from 1'5 to 1'3 .... and it has not worked badly ...

Thanks tam for your spirits !!I also use Social Diabetes .... And the truth is that it succeeds me a lot, but when I enter hiccups with active insulin and I see in the application that I still have 3ud and a half, 4, I don't know how to act and I enterin panic.In fact today I have lowered the ratio from 1'5 to 1'3 .... and it has not worked badly ...

@Cassie In my debut, 7 years now, my endo scheduled my insulinx glucometer with the doses by portions, similar to social diabetes.At 3 months, I became independent and started trying.I only had HC as they had told me and failed a lot because although I always ate 4 servings in the food, with 2 units I had a few days left and others were high.
Now I do it by eye, I know each meal better in each cycle and try to wear little and if it is necessary then correct.For my correct V is easier, I have better controlled what is needed, also now the ovulation, menstruation, stress ... fear gives me menopause.

Put less insulin, 1 or 2 units and if you see the arrow going up at 45 min, correct with 1 units.

6.1 glycosilada is very good.Congratulations!!

@Ruthbia .... Thank you!How are you going from yours?Do you know something already?
I understand that I do not have to continue together what the application offers me ... This morning I have risen in 80, I have not punctured anything (it offered me 1ud), I have reached 156 and I am going down to 129 (at the moment), Luckily I have not done it ... but I would have had a fixed hypo.
Yes, the sensor gives me 5.9 .... but the analytics 6.1 .... I am happy in that sense, to have started it is not so bad.A beautiful kiss!

It is super good 6,1.You have not been learning for 3 months!

@Cassie, I don't know anything until the middle of October, they will tell me if I need radiotherapy or what.
I have been a season that has looked at me a one -eyed (sorry for the expression)

@Nila: Thank you very much!:-* @ruthbia .... Let's see if you finally get something well and it doesn't take ... let's cross fingers !!Let's let the one -eyed look the other way!hahaha

ruthbia said:
@Cassie because I don't know anything until the mid -October, they will tell me if I need radiotherapy or what.
I have been a season that has looked at me a one -eyed

I hope everything is in a scare 😘😘

@CassieThe error is to act with diabetes as if they were mathematics.Your factor is not invariable over time, the disease evolves and behaves differently according to a lot of factors: temperature, season of the year, how you have rested, what exercise you have done, your hormone levels, etc.There is no precise application, you have to learn how your body reacts to the different meals and adjust the insulin doses to your personal, individual and unique reactions.
I think I remember that in another intervention you told you that it gave you a bass with the legumes and I told you that the legumes do not behave like a hydrate, but rather as a protein.It happens to me that way and it cost me several hypoglycemia to realize.
Do not look for external solutions;This is learning, of observing, of methodically aiming what you eat, of identifying patterns.
To learn to count rations you can see these channels
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In any case, you are making it phenomenal, you have very very good indicators.

@Ruthbia I wish you good luck, that you get this successfully and without more scares.<3

Thanks girls.
I come from the gynecologist and he told me that I have had great luck;Before the microcalcifications of the chest were not considered cancer or potentially cancer but that for a few years it is mandatory to make biopsy.
Over time they tend to cancer.

I am very grateful to the Jiménez Díaz Foundation, in 5 weeks I have done everything, multiple ultrasound, biopsy, clips, resonance and the operation, plus consultations with the Oncological Surgery team.
It has been a coming and going without truce but everything is almost finished.