Diabetic Keto Diet
10/21/2022 4 p.m.
Good afternoon!
My father is diabetic and certainly has enough overweight.
Talking to him we have been watching several diets online and the Keto diet, we liked them enough to make the two.
Has anyone tried it?Do you recommend it?
Thank you!
10/21/2022 4 p.m.
The ketogenic diet works very well to lose weight, but you have to do it with a professional to adjust the medication and not enter ketosis.
It is not to consume carbohydrates so that the body transforms the fats of the reserve into carbohydrates, but at the same time it generates blood ketones that can derive in ketoacidosis and that is serious in diabetics.
Without reaching ketosis, weight can be lost reducing carbohydrate intake (about40-50g/day) increasing protein and removing fat.
10/21/2022 5:10 p.m.
Lada enero 2015.
Uso Toujeo y Novorapid.
Don't go into ketosis?Precisely what is sought is to be in ketosis, you work with the metabolic routes of fats and ketones are fuel of great efficiency.The ketoacidosis if you continue with medication is not possible, they are unfounded fears, what insulin does is precisely inhibit cetone generation and that is why in the DT2 given the resistance of theinasulin they have more difficulty losing weight.I have been 2 years.I control the ketones periodically and without problem.For me there is no doubt, but it is certainly more restrictive
10/21/2022 7:57 p.m.
Well, they are opinions, no endocrine or nutritionist recommends ket!!So famous a few years ago and look at how I finish, the one who wants to do it, but to report well and take a professional !!
10/21/2022 8:52 p.m.
I keto does not but go down in hydrates yes.It is not possible to have good control with little glycemics variability eating the number of hydrates that the endocrine tell us.I have been low in HC for a long time, around 60 g or 70 a day at most.Once on the weekend it happened to me, of course, and I get a little out of the body, the body is customary.
More and more nutritionists and endocrine are more in accordance with limiting hydrates, it is normal forhiccup.In addition to more HC rations, more insulin you need and in the end more insulin resistance you have over time, which is a problem, and insulin resistance also occurs in type 1.
With the Keto diet you enter ketosis, which is not the same as ketoacidosis.The latter is the dangerous and there is cdo there is hyperglycemia due to lack of insulin.With insulin you don't enter ketoacidosis.
Anyway I already say that the Keto seems too restrictive but I do I think the new recommendations are in the line of limiting the HC.
10/21/2022 10:43 p.m.
The distinction between Keto and low car is fine or non -existent.Thus spoiling your health lacks the base, I assure you that my analysis is better than before my debut .... except for the clear glycosilada.Among the formation that I tell is that of dietetica and nutrition, now it is a degree I create before a second cycle, I do not exercise but I do not need a nutritionist.In the end it is a matter of investigating, for me there is no doubt, for Andrespmat yes.Each one is free to believe what they want, even my endocrine, an incompetent of volume and loin admitted what the ADA had expressed lately.Good luck to all
10/21/2022 11:16 p.m.
I believe that the new plain slow insulins, such as Toujeo and Tresiba, do work better with low hydrates diets, because they do not metabolize slow hydrates and the rapid can fall short.
The problem was before, with NPH -type insulins, which had beak and needed hydrates so as not to enter hiccup ..
I think that food must also be adapted to the type of insulin.
The drastic Keto diet does not convince me, because milk, fruit and legumes, they are good to complete the food, and entering in continuous ketosis does not seem very healthy either.
10/22/2022 2:22 a.m.
Hija de 35 años , diabética desde los 5. Glico: normalmente de 6 , pero 6,7 la última ( 6,2 marcaba el Free)
Fiasp: 4- 4- 3 Toujeo: 20
Hello everyone 50 years ago hehehe what was given was a ketogenic lifestyHC and many HC to diabetics over time this showed us that it was not the right thing even with the new fast insulins, many hypos, fears of them, and glycosylated levels that for an endocrine possibly applaud you .... but thatYou want me to tell you, anyway.
Just living with low HC levels is an incredible improvement, in my case I prefer Keto like this, I can only describe it "one pass"
All the best
10/22/2022 9:28 a.m.
Ah we are almost agree that the ideal is a low diet in hydrates.
To lose weight, which is the goal of @Toyitks, I went to the endocrine last year and gave me a ketogenic diet to lower the extra kilos.As they are lost between 1.5kg or 2kg per week, keto is made until it reaches the ideal weight.Then go to low diet in hydrates to maintain.
Exercise and 2 liters of water a day.
10/22/2022 10:59 a.m.
Lada enero 2015.
Uso Toujeo y Novorapid.
Thank you all for the information !!!!
10/22/2022 11:05 a.m.
I will talk to your medium and recommend us whether it is better or not .... to see if we are lucky.
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10/22/2022 11:06 a.m.
The Keto diet must be done well, that if not among many other things the cholesterol is going to shoot you, you have to choose well the type of fat and nothing of "processed Keto" if you are going to do it looking for a trustworthy professional.
I would opt more for a low carbage diet, or the diet of the plate, but always with quality fats, nothing of slow -absorbed processed and hydrates, also taking great care of which you choose, for example the whole wheat bread, the pasta, the rice.... however integral they have a high glymatical load.
10/29/2022 1:04 a.m.