Spain below the European average in spending per person with diabetes
03/17/2023 10:01 a.m.
Spain currently has an average annual health expense of 2,817 euros per person suffering from diabetes and, in 2019, the figure was 2,485 euros, this is an increase of approximately 12 percent in health spending in people with diabetes, according toThe Diabetes Atlas data of the International Diabetes Federation (IDF).
Although this figure has increased, health expenditure on people with diabetes in Spain is slightly lower than the European average, which is 2,893 euros, despite being the second country with the most affected in Europe, behind Germany.This country has a health expense per person of 6,244 euros a year, more than double the Spanish expenditure, a figure that has increased almost 31 percent since 2019.
Likewise, and according to the IDF report, other European countries, with fewer people with diabetes, have an expense higher than that of Spain, such as the United Kingdom (5,493 euros) or France (5,400 euros).These data have also been increased, compared to the figures that these countries had in 2019, 10.3 percent and 15.6 percent, respectively.
The number of people affected by diabetes in the world currently reaches the affected 537 million.Of these, more than 61 million live in the European continent and almost six million are Spanish.
The average prevalence of diabetes in Spain has reached up to 14.8 percent.This has, in addition to the quality of life of the people who suffer, directly on health spending, which in Spain is 5,809 million euros a year, in patients with type 2 diabetes and, according to the growth forecasts of the growth of thedisease, this figure will increase.
Of the 5,809 million euros that are destined to treat patients with type 2 diabetes, 2,143 million are due to the complications derived from the disease, which could be avoided and/or delayed if patients are provided, by the public administration by the public administration, a correct diabetological education.
The president of the Spanish Diabetes Federation (FEDE), Juan Francisco Perán, said that "to have diabetes education programs for the self -control of the pathology, from the moment of diagnosis, and always individually and continued in time, it would help improve the quality of life of the group and its relatives and reduce the national health cost for diabetes. "
03/17/2023 10:01 a.m.
@fer - Diabetes Tipo 1 desde 1.998 | FreeStyle Libre 3 | Ypsomed mylife YpsoPump + CamAPS FX | Sin complicaciones. Miembro del equipo de moderación del foro.
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It doesn't surprise me.I do not know the type 1, but the type 2 that also put me in the sack for my mody, I am being dead, is that the nurse that I had before they make you an emptyneous control in the infirmary, has told me,Not even analytical, every 3-6 months, analytics I suppose that some will do even if it is control a year I will find out ... the one I have now renewed my strips putting me insulin and being pregnant 3 strips a day when I had 8 ... here I did notIt is prevented, here they leave you to your fate and if that when you have complications or be total dependent insulin because things are already prescribed, meanwhile I feel that this is a apáñate them as you can.When they take off the strips I will continue to buy even if they cost me a money, thank God I can pay it, but I have companions who put an injection every I do not know how much, for example, more the pills and not even a control inHouse, they do not know if the breakfast snack goes up to 200 or 100 ... I really stay dead, because if they do not prescribe the strips or do not give information about what happens either they do not consider that they are necessary to acquire even if it isprivately.I don't know with the information I have how I could have good control without those things.My previous endocrine had prescribed strips and everything and lived in the absolute ignorance and I am realizing that the future that awaits me is based on apoquinar if I do not want to finish fatal.I do not know if it is so, I already say that until now in another province this did not happen to me but I saw a specialist in my type of diabetes and maybe I was free.
03/17/2023 10:12 a.m.
Diabetes desde 03/15
Lantus
MODY 3
HG octubre 2021: 5,7; junio 2021: 6,5; 2020: 6,7; 2019: 6,7. 2018: 6,4
Indeed, most type 2 are abandoned.
I have a friend who fails to download the 7.5 glyc and all they do is take the glucose on an empty stomach every 3 weeks and an analytical one year.It has no glucometer or anything (TB has been stopped for many years and is not economically left over).
And so ... thousands of type 2 that are not even aware of the long -term severity of being high.Thus there are the amount of complications in type 2 and few seem to me ...
If we add doctors who have not contrasted with a sensor in their life that recommend fruit and other things that produce tremendous peaks ...
Well, as diabetes is practically asymptomatic (except very high levels), because the patient lives without knowing, giving picas when he eats fruit, white bread and other things, but he doesn't know.And then when they tell him he has a 7.5/8 glyc
I do not know how Social Security does not realize that in the long run it would be a saving to give TB control to type 2, many complications would be avoided.If it is not for ethics that at least do it for money.
I like you, @nila I have a lot of money spent in my control and it is the best investment I have made, but the number of people who live very fair cannot allow it.And in the end things that could have been avoided.A pity.
03/17/2023 10:46 a.m.
DM 2 con páncreas agotado desde diciembre 2020. 51 años entonces.
HG diciembre 2020: 15.9. Última HG: julio 2024 5.8
Abasaglar 9 unidades. Metformina, 1000/0/1000. Humalog junior: 2 unid en desayuno y luego en función de lo que coma.
For example with medication in pills the lowest hemo I have had is 6.7.With slow right now the last one has been 5.1.And as some fruit between meals because I do not eat fruit for pregnancy and I have the cantinela that I have to eat everything and blah, blah.But this is clear in the image that occurs everything, if before diet and exercise with metformin my lowThey say they take their pill and eat everything.It really seems terrible to me
03/17/2023 10:55 a.m.
Diabetes desde 03/15
Lantus
MODY 3
HG octubre 2021: 5,7; junio 2021: 6,5; 2020: 6,7; 2019: 6,7. 2018: 6,4
In Denmark they have specialized diabetes clinics (Steno Diabetes Center are called) that when you see you understand what it is to receive first level health care and not the pantomime they have here mounted that only care for you when you are really screwed.
But we have the Spaniards for not demanding a more efficient management of resources.The emergency of hospitals have become external consultations without an appointment for hypochondriac, people who live near hospitals, illegal immigrants etc and of course, then you go one day every 5 or 10 years and you feel cheated when you see how they dispatch you withthe first diagnosis that occurs to them and the famous "if you don't improve you."I am convinced that they do so as a filter so that you are among the fear of not receiving adequate medical assistance and going to a private doctor, so many times until you go two or three times and assume that you are not going toOpting for private health ignores you.
And of the consultations to the GP, the fights to send you evidence, the waiting times ... we better not speak.But it is more of the same, they do so to be scared, enter the Internet to look for blood analysis or ultrasound prices etc ... and to pay 100-200-300 euros for being calm.
Since I went to the Emergencies the last time and I did not have a fade, I have a clear case, when I left written record of the facts showing my disagreement.And a lawyer friend assures me that if I tell the doctor that I am going to do that, I even save it because they magically begin to test.
03/17/2023 11:07 a.m.
Well, let's see the positive side.Since there is International Diabetes Day, November 17, more social echo is having.
There is still a lot, but few type 2 diabetics "press" their doctors to have better controls or find information on their own.
We must all participate in some way.
03/17/2023 11:44 a.m.
Lada enero 2015.
Uso Toujeo y Novorapid.
All the type 2 that I know (and unfortunately I know a few) are of the mother when you ask them.
They have no idea how lack of control that they are and what will lead to that in the medium/long term.
It is what he has to go to the doctor, I don't know how much and tell them that everything is fine and that with a couple of pills they can eat everything they want.
Yesterday I was talking in my business with a customer with type 2 and I told him that I would have to think about leaving the beer (among many other things), that I had a super high IG and that it made very pronounced peaks and that only with the pillsI couldn't control it.
I had no idea what I was talking about, IG, or hydrates, or anything.He just made telling me that it was not so much and that the analyzes (1/2 times a year) did very well.That his doctor told him to drink and eat everything he wanted.
Summary: Diabetes education is essential to avoid the problems we all already know.There is no "good sugar" or "bad sugar".Diabetes are diabetes and doctors would have to be very clear with patients to try not to suffer complications.
PD: Forgive the sheet, but I'm a little tired of being a weirdo that tries to do things well and is labeled "obsessive", "bitter" just because the rest of the people do not know what it is to deal at all hours withThis j*dida disease.
03/17/2023 12:58 p.m.
The problem is that Sandman, that doctors go from everything with a frequency much higher than the admissible.
Then they tell people not to look for anything on the Internet, but the reality is that with the healthcare that there is totally necessary to do so.What happens is that if you are looking for information, you complicate their lives because questions arise and want answers, and many are not for the work that their heads hot beyond their diagnosis and treatment.
03/17/2023 5:09 p.m.
@Karl85 you have given on the nail.If you inform yourself, you raise doubts and alternative suggests to the doctor's protocol you become an "annoying" patient.It is a mixture of contempt for what you can raise as a patient;They have studied medicine and you are giving them the pain with some article, some documentary and some forum and laziness;They do not want to use more time than the semester that dedicate or introduce "innovations" in their guidelines.
I tell my endocrine that I make lowcarb diet and tells me that it is not necessary, to eat the hydrates that you want and put the insulin, which is what it is for.I tell him that I do strength training and the weekly hours that I dedicate to exercise and cuts me with "irrelevant."With an annoyance face.
I have requested endocrine change, I will tell you when I touch the next review.
03/19/2023 12:11 a.m.
LADA desde septiembre de 2021
Toujeo y Fiasp
Aprendiendo
salad said:
@karl85 you have given in the nail.If you inform yourself, you raise doubts and alternative suggests to the doctor's protocol you become an "annoying" patient.It is a mixture of contempt for what you can raise as a patient;They have studied medicine and you are giving them the pain with some article, some documentary and some forum and laziness;They do not want to use more time than the semester that dedicate or introduce "innovations" in their guidelines.
I tell my endocrine that I make lowcarb diet and tells me that it is not necessary, to eat the hydrates that you want and put the insulin, which is what it is for.I tell him that I do strength training and the weekly hours that I dedicate to exercise and cuts me with "irrelevant."With an annoyance face.
I have requested endocrine change, I will tell you when I touch the next review.
Well you do changing.
"Irrelevant", go border ...
03/19/2023 7:52 a.m.
DM 2 con páncreas agotado desde diciembre 2020. 51 años entonces.
HG diciembre 2020: 15.9. Última HG: julio 2024 5.8
Abasaglar 9 unidades. Metformina, 1000/0/1000. Humalog junior: 2 unid en desayuno y luego en función de lo que coma.
Isabelbota said:
salad said:
@karl85 you have given on the nail.If you inform yourself, you raise doubts and alternative suggests to the doctor's protocol you become an "annoying" patient.It is a mixture of contempt for what you can raise as a patient;They have studied medicine and you are giving them the pain with some article, some documentary and some forum and laziness;They do not want to use more time than the semester that dedicate or introduce "innovations" in their guidelines.
I tell my endocrine that I make lowcarb diet and tells me that it is not necessary, to eat the hydrates that you want and put the insulin, which is what it is for.I tell him that I do strength training and the weekly hours that I dedicate to exercise and cuts me with "irrelevant."With an annoyance face.
I have requested endocrine change, I will tell you when I touch the next review.Well you do changing.
"Irrelevant", go edge ...
I will never forget the answer that the neurologist gave me when I diagnosed the peripheral neuropathy and I told him that I had a short time with DM and my glycos were low, and I let me go ... "To the one who gives him" and he was so fresh
03/19/2023 9:44 a.m.
diabetic said:
Isabelbota said:
salad said:
salad said:
@karl85 you have given in the nail.If you inform yourself, you raise doubts and alternative suggests to the doctor's protocol you become an "annoying" patient.It is a mixture of contempt for what you can raise as a patient;They have studied medicine and you are giving them the pain with some article, some documentary and some forum and laziness;They do not want to use more time than the semester that dedicate or introduce "innovations" in their guidelines.
I tell my endocrine that I make lowcarb diet and tells me that it is not necessary, to eat the hydrates that you want and put the insulin, which is what it is for.I tell him that I do strength training and the weekly hours that I dedicate to exercise and cuts me with "irrelevant."With an annoyance face.
I have requested endocrine change, I will tell you when I touch the next review.Well you do changing.
"Irrelevant", go edge ...I will never forget the answer that the neurologist gave me when I diagnosed the peripheral neuropathy and I told him that I had a short time with DM and my glycos were low, and I let me go ... "To the one who gives him" and he was so fresh
Pure science ...
03/19/2023 10:35 a.m.
DM 2 con páncreas agotado desde diciembre 2020. 51 años entonces.
HG diciembre 2020: 15.9. Última HG: julio 2024 5.8
Abasaglar 9 unidades. Metformina, 1000/0/1000. Humalog junior: 2 unid en desayuno y luego en función de lo que coma.