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Secondary diabetes, pancreopriva or DM 3C

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"Diabetes produced by pancreatic dysfunction.

It is diabetes with absence of autoantibodies, exocrine and endocrine pancreatic insufficiency simultaneously and typical morphopathology.Exocrine pancreatic pathology includes chronic pancreatitis in most cases, but also hemochromatosis, pancreatic cancer, cystic fibrosis and previous surgical intervention over the pancreas. "

I come to talk "about mine" ;-)

I am reading you from not long ago and I have not seen anyone who has the same variant as me.I suppose in part because most are quite older for this internet.

That is why I would be interested in knowing others, since we are something different as it not only fails insulin, but everything related to the pancreas.Also the glucagon and all pancreatic enclosures.Translated, we mislead food and it is difficult for us to recover hypoglycemia.

Many can be classified as DM2 if they discover diabetes without knowing that they have pancreas problems.

Others, such as pancreas operates, already know that diabetics will end.I guess that's why the nurse asked me if they had operated me (No. Go see what put him in endocrine in the report)

But at this time diabetes is not my main problem.It is the lack of Kreon (pancreatic enclosures) that is not found in pharmacies lately.Abbot factory stop in China, and pig problems.It is removed from the female bristles.(? Only?)

I see myself with intestinal problems and malnutrition at the end of summer, when the medication is over.Come on, as the children those Africans in the bones and with the inflated gut (it is not guasa, I have seen someone admitted with that aspect)

If anyone knows any of "mine" around here, I would like to communicate with him/her.

Thanks for enduring me.

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08/09/2024 2:34 p.m.
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Oh!It only occurs to me to call the medicine agency to see if there are more laboratories on the list.

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Ruthbia
08/09/2024 4:07 p.m.

Lada enero 2015.
Uso Toujeo y Novorapid.

  

It's Saturday I got a boat.I had to go to a pharmacy in Majadahonda, where some friends had located it.
Now I get in September.

I've been disrupted ...

This morning breakfast and same insulin -which normally goes up to 200 and low -has not risen to 130 and I had to take something more when I already got out of 80 with active insulin (an hour and a half from the puncture)

I don't understand anything.That didn't happen to me before heat.I hope that is and will be "normal" again with the cold.

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08/12/2024 12:05 p.m.
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Hello, because I am one "of yours".In August 2022 I suffered acute pancreatitis that had me two weeks in the hospital and about to take me ahead.As a result, I lost the endocrine and exocrine functions of the pancreas and I was diagnosed with type 3c diabetes.The specialist told me that there were cases in which after a few months the pancreas could recover some or some of its functions but, in my case, I have been with insulin since then and with Kreon daily to replace the exocrine function and without apparent improvements in bothprocesses.In fact, I still need between 40 and 50 daily, between Lantus and Novorapid.
If it is true that I have not had digestive problems, or when I spent a few days away from home and forgot about the Kreon (I even won a little weight) so I deduce that something of the digestive function of the pancreas seems to work, although I still take twocapsules in food and dinner.
As for the availability of the Kreon I must say that I have not had any problem, my pharmacy has it ready as long as I need it although I also know that on occasion it has cost them enough to get it.
As for variations in the behavior of blood glucose, it was already clear that there are no two days equal and in this forum there are thousands of testimonies that attest.I simply try to maintain stability in food and insulin and, after these two years, I am getting it since in the last analytics it had a value of 4.5 in the HBA1C.
I have been with MCG (Free2) for a year and that helps a lot to control and anticipate (or try) the behavior of glucose after food intake.I have practically avoided postprandial peaks since it rarely rises above 140 mg/dl.

What I have proven is that the acquisition of small continued habits are beneficial when giving a certain regularity to blood glucose levels (and also in the digestive function), such as respecting a regular schedule, a light food in hydrates but varied and variedSome regular exercise (but nothing to beat records in gym that some are no longer necessary or need for it).
Greetings to all!

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09/12/2024 8:01 p.m.
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Aflores said:
hello, because I am one "of yours".In August 2022 I suffered acute pancreatitis that had me two weeks in the hospital and about to take me ahead.As a result, I lost the endocrine and exocrine functions of the pancreas and I was diagnosed with type 3c diabetes.The specialist told me that there were cases in which after a few months the pancreas could recover some or some of its functions but, in my case, I have been with insulin since then and with Kreon daily to replace the exocrine function and without apparent improvements in bothprocesses.In fact, I still need between 40 and 50 daily, between Lantus and Novorapid.
If it is true that I have not had digestive problems, or when I spent a few days away from home and forgot about the Kreon (I even won a little weight) so I deduce that something of the digestive function of the pancreas seems to work, although I still take twocapsules in food and dinner.
As for the availability of the Kreon I must say that I have not had any problem, my pharmacy has it ready as long as I need it although I also know that on occasion it has cost them enough to get it.
As for variations in the behavior of blood glucose, it was already clear that there are no two days equal and in this forum there are thousands of testimonies that attest.I simply try to maintain stability in food and insulin and, after these two years, I am getting it since in the last analytics it had a value of 4.5 in the HBA1C.
I have been with MCG (Free2) for a year and that helps a lot to control and anticipate (or try) the behavior of glucose after food intake.I have practically avoided postprandial peaks since it rarely rises above 140 mg/dl.

What I have proven is that the acquisition of small continued habits are beneficial when giving a certain regularity to blood glucose levels (and also in the digestive function), such as respecting a regular schedule, a light food in hydrates but varied and variedSome regular exercise (but nothing to beat records in gym that some are no longer necessary or need for it).
Greetings to all!

Greetings
Mine has gone a little more slowly than you.Pancreatitis in 2018, Kreon since 2019, metformin (and mixtures) since 2021 and with insulin since October last year and sensor since April.

If little normal weight -imc of 18-, when they put the insulin I was just over 15 BMIs.And that was what worried me.44kg, a skin without any fat in the body by then.With saying that I still have cholesterol below the minimum (126)

At the beginning I was going to about 40 in total but now I am for the 25 IU.I am smaller, sure ;-)

The shortage of Kreon goes to Rachas.But this summer it cost me more to find it than other times.I guess people accumulating for vacations.

I'm already accommodating all that, but I have a summer that I don't know how the data will come out.And that I stay 90% in rank.Maybe I am a bit obsessive.

I don't know if you, but the endocrine told me that this variant of the most difficult to control.I hope not.

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09/13/2024 10:57 a.m.
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I am also 3C, but I do not take Kreon, with slow and fast insulin, you have to be careful with some doctors who in case of acute pancreatitis (I have spent two in 2015 and 2018) recipe yes or if the Kreon, without having made aComplete analysis of enclosures

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09/13/2024 2:29 p.m.
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I am also DM 3, Total residual pancreatomia with hepatic-right-aenestemosis.
In a nutshell they stretch me, pancreas, spleen, gallbladder etc.
Kreon's lack of Kreon telling him to the family doctor who is scholar and that makes a recipe for strangeria.
I did it and sent me 4 Pancreatecta boats 36000 U. I take 35000 but I spoke with endocrine and nothing happens, the good thing is that they send them and do not discount them from the SS.SS, and you can gather someSenior boat for later offenses.To all this, digestions we will always have high and low is almost always because of the meals that we eat or go through something.
By the way I am from Galicia ahh and I have been like this since 2006 and I have very good quality of life, (I also take great care) greetings for the forum

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09/16/2024 10:41 p.m.
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I put all Kreon distributions in the recipe.10,000 25,000 35,000 in boats of 100 250 ... so that they can always buy what they have in the pharmacy.

But these days I already have reservations.It is the bad thing about depending on a medication without substitutes.

With diabetes I still surprise myself.My graphs do not stop moving.They don't get pretty like those that I see for the forum.

I suppose that we do not have good digestions.which can make absorption be delayed.I still miss fat and fat -soluble vitamins

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09/17/2024 11:25 a.m.
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Very good you are not so alone, my wife takes 100% of the pancreas, duodenum and gallbladder, and now has a stenosis in the Yeyunal Zapatico, which causes some vomiting some sees and increases of glucose for a few days when it has episodes.

With the Kreon, we have turned it free by putting in the recipe all possible combinations and there is always one or the other, take in units (thousands) 100-35-100-35-100 and the weight does not take practically anything, it is in42,500 now 11 months ago they operated, otherwise it is optimistic and animated in his day by day
The sensor is with Dexcom One and now we will pass to Dexcom One +(we will tell you)
The range this summer with heat has been an ordeal is not easy

I write, because she has a problem in the view and cannot type comfortably
Thank you all for sharing experiences

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Jesususar
09/23/2024 12:46 p.m.
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Sorry, I forget to tell you about insulin, take Tujedo in slow 18 units in the morning and FIASP depends the party about 25 on average a day in bowling depending on the sensor
A hug

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09/23/2024 12:48 p.m.
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