Love, diabetes and video tapes
01/10/2011 9:34 a.m.
A year ago I met my partner and I was completely in love, as soon as I start the relationship I knew about their diabetes and try to expand the few knowledge I knew about the disease.
I immediately realized that my girlfriend at 27 and with diabetes for 4, had not taken care of it excessively.The first thing that caught my attention was that I was a smoker and that I did not follow any type of diet ...
Little by little I started to inform myself on my account of what the diabetic being entails and started pressing to quit smoking and started taking care of it.But logically, I am not his father and at the beginning of the relationship what he wanted least is to press it in these aspects.
Now after a year, and sometimes it gives me the feeling that my knowledge about the disease is broader than she has.
Although I have tried to raise awareness, it is still a bit on the same line, it has reduced tobacco, but continues to smoking, the diet does not care and is not aware of the problems that the disease will behave in the future.
I am not afraid of his illness, and I accept the risk factors that diabetes involves.But what I cannot accept is the fact that she does not work to reduce those risks.
I am trying to convince her to stop smoking, but it is very difficult for me when her own sister or friends continue to offer tobacco.
I know it is his life and is free to choose, but I also have freedom to know next to whom I want to spend mine, so I have told him that if he does not change his attitude it is best to leave the relationship.Obviously she reacts initially, but then it is to leave a Friday and return to the pitillo ... I don't talk about the issue of controlling sugar, her philosophy is, I plug 3 insulin bolis a day and problem of diabetes solved ...
Thanks in advance
01/10/2011 9:34 a.m.
Hello.
Tobacco has nothing to do with diabetes.
If you decide to leave the relationship PQ smokes it is your thing but smoking has nothing to do with diabetes, smoking does not affect the control of diabetes.If you say you have more knowledge than her about diabetes, what I just said should know.
01/10/2011 9:42 a.m.
Hello!
I do not agree with TNT.Diabetes is one of the five risk factors for cardiovascular diseases and another.Therefore it is more harmful smoking for a diabetic than for someone who is not diabetic.
Smoking if it has to do with diabetes.
Smoking positively alters glucose levels and decreases insulin sensitivity.Apart from the studies on it, I have this well proven in diabetic friends (with more than 10-15 years with diabetes) smokers and non-smokers, since the smokers are punctured many more insulin units than non-smokers.
You can find information about this since there are several studies that show it.
It seems to me that you are acting well, since if you do not take care you are also going to pay the consequences in the future if you continue together.
Greetings!
01/10/2011 10:05 a.m.
Totally agree with Maria.
You do not seem egoist, quite the opposite and I understand you perfectly, when you really love a person you only want the best for her and if you see that you do not take care of you, it happened to me with my previous partner that was not diabetic andI had a fatal
Smoking is bad for anyone but for us it is even worse, so he continues to try not only to stop smoking but also take care of it because if the consequences of poor care of diabetes will not appear soon.
01/10/2011 10:18 a.m.
I will clarify some things: smoking is not a healthy habit, I am not a smoker and I am not campaigning in favor of tobacco.
That said ... tobacco does not influence glycemia, neither positively or negatively.
smokers are clicking many more units of insulin than theNon smokers .
These things that you comment in this paragraph are not true and instead of telling people to seek information or instead of saying that there are studies that show it you should directly cite those studies.
One thing is tobacco that is a negative vice, with which they end up having respiratory and other types and that is unhealthy in general and a very different one is that there is a direct relationship between tobacco and blood glucose levels, betweentobacco and poor control of diabetes, between tobacco and insulin resistance, that there is no such relationship.
An example of something similar ... Coffee and diabetes relationship: coffee is a substance that is very negative for things like blood pressure but in case it only does not affect diabetes, coffee is only not affecting glucose levelsIn blood.
Tobacco neither raises nor lowers blood glucose levels, nor improves nor worsens in itself the control of diabetes.
What do you want to open a debate about how bad tobacco is?It seems very well but we do not mix churras with merinas ... PQ if not to start naming a lot of things that without affecting diabetes directly are not healthy (such as the example of coffee).
Smoking is very bad.
01/10/2011 10:40 a.m.
Excuse whether there has been something pedantic to say that I have more knowledge than her, perhaps it is that the knowledge I have acquired make me worry more than her;Even so on tobacco, the doctor has recriminated to smoking and warned him about the risks that this implies for a diabetic.I think it is overwhelming logic that smoking for a diabetic implies a greater risk of suffering cardiovascular problems and I would not like to transform the thread into a debate about whether it is or not.What I want is to know your opinion to try to understand your passivity to the disease and try to know if the pressure I exercise about your attitude is positive or will be worse.
01/10/2011 10:43 a.m.
I am interested in the tobacco-diabetes relationship, I know that tobacco is bad, I already have it clear, what interests me is the direct relationship between tobacco and diabetes.
Any doctor will recriminate a smoker by that habit regardless of other things, that data is not novelty.
If tobacco directly influences glycems I hope that whoever defends that can at least give the glycemic index of tobacco.
I am sorry to be a little diplomatic but this forum goes on diabetes is not a sentimental office.
01/10/2011 10:54 a.m.
I have not written any lie.Don't get like that.What do you go to affirm what you say?
Here you have an article from the Diabetesvoice magazine.I have also spoken to my endocrine, and it is not to mix churras with merinas.
01/10/2011 10:55 a.m.
Tobacco is not a food, it cannot have glycemic index.Read the article that I have hit there and then tell me you think.And I think you're being a bit edge;)
Electricferrer I still say what I have affirmed before, that you are acting well.
Greetings!
01/10/2011 10:59 a.m.
I am interestedand diabetes.Any doctor will recriminate a smoker by that habit regardless of other things, that data is not novelty.
If tobacco directly influences glycems I hope that whoever defends that can at least give the glycemic index of tobacco.
I am sorry to be little diplomat but this forum goes on diabetes is not a sentimental office.
Let's see TNT, do you know how many messages this forum has for feelings that diabetes creates some people?How do they feel with themselves or their surroundings?Mothers concerned with their children, people worried about how the disease will affect him in his life ... or are you going to tell me that it is a purely scientific forum?Please, if the issue does not interest you, you don't have to follow the thread, but I think I omit that diabetes causes depression, sentimental problems, which affects the mood of those who suffer from it, etc ... is something natural and notIt should be vetoed ...
I do not enter into details of my relationship that are not related to the issue of diabetes, and since everyone has other problems ... I don't think I focus like a sentimental office
01/10/2011 11:14 a.m.
Smoking has been related to insulin resistance.
My "famous" catecholamines and their adrenaline/norepinephrine relatives are the culprits of that progressive increase in insulin resistance and blood glucose elevation.
This article is explained much better than me:
In addition, as I think we all know, hyperacelera the microvascular eyes and kidney complications.
01/10/2011 11:52 a.m.
Luckily Owash always arrives :)) :)) :)) ....... because I was going to be very little diplomatic ufff ........: Mrgreen:
Electricferrer do not stop expressing everything you feel, of course we talk about feelings and everything, we are people with diabetes and who is not interested in the thread because it does not read it ....: Mrgreen:
01/10/2011 12:17 p.m.
The case commented by the person who has opened the thread (Electricferrer) is that of a woman who already has diabetes, that this diabetes is of type 1 and that is smoker.
Let us know that I have downloaded and read the document.
The document has at least two parts:
In the initial part, the document is spoken among other things about the risk of cardiovascular diseases being a smoker (something that nobody in the thread has discussed, we all knew (or at least I already knew) that tobacco is a little habithealthy) In that same initial part of the document, there is also talk of the risk of paderer type 2 being smoker (something that in principle has little to do with the case commented PQ is a person who already has diabetes and that diabetes is of type 1).
Tobacco is bad (nothing new) but this first part of the document seems to contribute little or nothing to the case commented by Electricferrer in this thread or rather contributes little or nothing to the subsequent "discussion".
In the second part of the document (from the section "Insulin insensitivity and other metabolic effects"), among other things of increasing insulin resistance in smokers.To demonstrate that this increase in insulin resistance is spoken of obesity and tobacco (when you can have obesity without being a smoker) also to demonstrate that increase in insulin resistance, we talk about triglyceride and/or cholesterol problemsand tobacco (when you can have triglycerides and/or cholesterol problems without being a smoker).
This second part seems to throw some light at least to the tobacco-resistance to insulin (although those same problems can be had without being a smoker).
María2542006 anywhere in the document I see that it is talk about whether the tobacco is hypoglycemic or hyperglycemic, everything that is spoken is of how little healthy is tobacco, the risks of suffering from cardiovascular diseases ... etc. when more or less we all haveOf course, tobacco is a negative vice but I think that your exact words were "smoking positively alter the glucose levels" that I may have interpreted them badly but there reads some "glucose levels" which sounds like glycemiaAnd something like "positively" that maybe it makes someone think that tobacco is positive and helps regulate blood glucose levels.
01/10/2011 12:34 p.m.
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You are writing in this forum, you already knew that tobacco is negative, it is an unhealthy habit, you did not need to come to a forum to find out that.If you already know that, what are you looking for?A reaffirmation of something you already know?How to speak to your partner?Forgive but any of these two things seem unnecessary to me.
In your post association almost all the tobacco with carrying a bad control of diabetes and that is one of the reasons because I decide to post in this thread.Instead of talking about doing that association, of which I disagree, it would have been better for example giving glycosylated hemoglobins or if your girlfriend has more or less stable diabetes (without serious hypoglycemia, without hyperglycemia, without being a roller mountain) orSimilar to have something tangible that it really carries a bad control of diabetes (and that of being so, it would only show that bad control would not prove that it is because of tobacco).
01/10/2011 12:49 p.m.
Hello Electricferrer, I think that the only thing you are going to get is that your relationship ends.
Love is free, if you really want it, I don't think you get it between the sword and the wall.
How can you say that or quit or leave it?
I think your intentions are good but not forms.
If you really want you to begin to take care, you must speak long and lying with her and if you see that you do not make her go to talk to a specialist, but never threaten, I think that with her age she is not a girl or her her herfather.
01/10/2011 12:52 p.m.
Hello Electricferrer, how lucky your girl has to have you.If you do not take care of it is because you do not want or value much, or will not have any incentive, although it surprises me with such a attentive boyfriend.
I also smoke and leave it, but it is so difficult, the one who does not smoke does not understand us.I have heard that the treatment to quit smoking will surely be for social security, I will try.Encourage and above all take care of yourself.
Good luck: p
01/10/2011 1:21 p.m.
DM LADA (7-4-09). Con 50 años. Novorrapit flexpen, y Tresiva. Sin complicaciones.
Psychologist on
Behind smoking (tobacco) not only hides a dependency to a substance, but is intimately linked to lifestyle habits, repetitive behaviors (the cigarette after food, the cigar in the bar, the cigar with theFriends), in addition, the cigar, the lighter, the act in itself has linked more complex issues than a simple situational behavior (the bar) or a physical dependence, using it (sometimes) as an element of defense or support in the face of difficulties or problems or problems.
That is, behind each person who smokes there is a context, an environment and some why different.
Psychologist offered
If we join a couple relationship ... it's the bomb.
Normally the problems try to avoid all.
Smoking is a problem for the person who does it ... and knows it .... it can be a smoker but not asshole, knows that it is not good.
If solving a diabetes control problem is very complicated ... if we increase it with the theme of tobacco, it will still seem even bigger.
My opinion is that the abandonment of tobacco should not come justified by diabetes or by the relationship (unless it is unbearable and inexcusable condition ... that you also have the right to put your own conditions ...)
The objectives to be achieved the closer and easy before they are dominated ... long -term and complex objectives are usually unattainable (this phrase I have had to read in some sugar in the middle of a hiccup :))))
01/10/2011 1:46 p.m.
Controversial smell?: Shock :: Shock :: Shock:
Let's go in parts (Jack the Dixit Ripper) Diabetes is a prism that has many faces.The emotional issue is not the least of them.To value this aspect intestively, calling it "sentimental office" is not only little generous, but unraveled.
Electricferrer is a type 3 diabetic, like me, and like many other members of this forum.What differentiates us from types 1 and 2 is that it is not our body or our health that we want to take care of, but that of people to whom we are united by an affective relationship, whether as a couple or paternal-filial, or other.And there comes the complicated: how to act when the decision capacity has the other, who suffers directly the disease?
Well, that is what Electricferrer asks us: advice on howOr where is the limit in which the aid becomes counterproductive ..., in short, that just in which, without interfering with the privacy of the diabetic, we want to help you, or open your eyes if we see that your behaviors are negative.
Sorry, TNT, I think your eagerness to be precise, for sticking to the disease, makes you forget the patient or their surroundings.And it sometimes crossed out of hard, because it is without shame when someone wants to sell a motorcycle, or spends ready.However, giving sticks to whom it simply raises a frequent situation with the sole intention of knowing how to act, it seems inadmissible, useless and chulesca tad.
That said, my opinion is that the girl is already greater, with which the pressure, if strong, can create the opposite effect and encourage the rejection of help.Maybe it's better to go little by little, without pressing too much.It would not be bad if you convince your girl to pass through the forum.There are diabetics that have never smoked, others who have stopped smoking and some who continue to smoking, that is, everything.My 17 -year -old is diabetic and smokes.I could prohibit it directly, but I'm afraid it would be useless.
Perhaps it is good that you see you interested in your health, but not as a judge, or as a father, but as a friend who appreciates her.Offer you to accompany her to her reviews and ask the endocrine, but all with touch.You know her better and you will know how to treat her.
And here you have us for doubts.
Health
01/10/2011 4:46 p.m.
I believe that Electricferrer not only speaks of tobacco, but also of the diet that does not carry plug 3 times with the insulin and fixed boli , it seems to me that I ask about the opinion of other diabetics I imagine thatTo know how a diabetic feels with the "pressure" of her partner, I see it ... it happens the same with everything, my daughter has diabetes and she sometimes hurries her to puncture in front of the people, I have told my caseIn case someone has gone through the same thing and can guide me, also when I debut my story to feel more supported than with the rest of people who do not go through the same as us, for me I do not know if sentimental office but it is,a forum where to express your feelings ....
01/10/2011 4:48 p.m.
However, give sticks to whom he simply raises a frequent situation with the sole intention of knowing how to act, it seems inadmissible, useless and chulesca tad.
Do you say that?As commented to Electricferrer?As commented to María2542006?Can you refer to "Los Palos"?What are those "sticks"?I ask all these questions because you direct you directly and in the thread a lot more people are participating who are also giving "sticks" but apparently I am the only one who deserves to be named ...
01/10/2011 5:03 p.m.