Flu A Vaccine?

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We are in a sea of ​​doubts .......

Now seriously, as my family doctor takes it very seriously, I will ask for time with her, and to tell me ....... I will tell you.

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11/19/2009 3:59 a.m.
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Hello, my daughter's pediatrician has told me not to vaccine her, that the vaccine is not tested in children, that we hope, that it is not being as aggressive as they thought and that most cases are being mild.I have also consulted with its endocrine and this has told me that we decide and at the moment we are not going to put it.I hope to be doing the right thing, although I have doubts.
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11/19/2009 6:27 a.m.
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In the end I have also vaccinated this morning ......... and I haven't mutated either.

After eating I had the feeling of fever, but it has already passed.Normal eating blood glucose, and two hours after eating 101, so all correct.

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11/20/2009 11:19 a.m.
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here the opinion of some professionals:
an WTO forum advise against the citizen vaccinated from the flu to

Publish messages contrary to prophylaxis aimed at health professionals and pregnant women

Óscar López Alba.Madrid
The Collegiate Medical Organization (WTO) launched in September a forum so that citizens could resolve doubts about the flu A. This forum is always replied by Juan Gérvas, family doctor of Canencia de la Sierra, Garganta de los Montes and theQuadron (Madrid);Honorary Professor of Public Health at the Faculty of Medicine of the Autonomous University of Madrid;and Visiting Professor of Primary Care in International Health of the National School of Health (Madrid).

Juan J. Rodríguez Sendín, President of the WTO, J. Gérvas and J. Martínez.
Gérvas, usual columnist and lecturer, is known in the sanitary world for its reluctance to vaccination against the flu, as many of the answers it has given in this forum: “The background problem is that the antigripales vaccines are littleeffective ”;"The flu vaccine for pregnant women leaves much to be desired."It even questions the effectiveness of antivirals: "The usefulness of antivirals is under discussion, and in any case they should be used in very specific cases."

It must be remembered that the WTO has made public its support position to the measures adopted by the Ministry of Health and Social Policy in relation to flu A, which should include the recommendation to vaccinate risk groups and personnel of the personnel of theessential services (including health professionals).However, the Corporation leaves its forum for patients with doubts about flu A in the hands of a professional with an opinion contrary to the supposedly official of the General Council of Medical Colleges, and tries to justify it by pointing out that "the answers to the questions of thisForum exclusively reflect the opinion of the specialist who responds to them. "

But the funny thing is that the WTO has its own scientific advisor to the Flu A. This is Juan Martínez, head of the Preventive Medicine Service of the Carlos III Hospital and author of the Book Flu A: Gripal Pandemia 2009. Martínez does not respond even one fromThe issues raised by citizens in this forum.According to sources from the Collegiate Medical Corporation, that it is Gérvas who responds to the issues of citizens and not the scientific advisor of the WTO is only for a matter of "availability."

The truth is that the opinion of the WTO scientific advisor in Flu A is quite opposite to the one offered to citizens.Remember that recently, and on a day held at the WTO headquarters, Juan Martínez showed his support for vaccination."Flu A vaccines are safe and have an efficacy of more than 80 percent," he said, and insisted that "no deadlines have been shortened in checking their safety, but only some administrative ones."

Martínez criticized even the coverage provided by the Interterritorial Council of the National Health System, indicating that it fell short.“If vaccines below 40 percent of the population there is no impact of the action of the disease in society, you only protect the vaccinated.And in Spain only vaccination for 9 percent of the population is recommended, ”he said.

Also advised vaccination to professionals

Gérvas also launches anti-vacuna tips on professionals.In the forum he recognizes that he does not vaccinate and a nursing assistant who works in the emergency department of a public hospital tells him that "it is not necessary to vaccinate because flu A is a mild flu, and its infection can give immunity for life".Martínez did bet on the vaccination of the sanitary collective.“The protocols can be bad, but if you even read them, they are worse.There are opportunistic messages and there are others based simply on fear.Fear is free, and the doctor as an individual can do what he wants, but for his patient he must follow the recommendations based on scientific evidence, ”he reflected.

In this same day, José Jover Ibarra, specialist in Preventive Medicine and Public Health, and currently Deputy Director of Public Health of the City of Madrid, said in this regard: “The attitude of certain professionals before the flu vaccinedeplorable.We have inexplicable rebellions.There are moral reasoning or fears that can be debatable, but what cannot be discussed is the effectiveness of vaccination.Not vaccinating is an improper banality of an ancient profession, ”he said.

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11/30/2009 12:34 p.m.
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I return to this issue, because after two years we see it clearer.The vaccine that they are now putting for the flu includes type A, and is safe, it has no side effects and it is advisable to put it.
I did not get vaccinated, I had a very strong flu two years ago, it had to be type A because in a day it evolved to a very strong bronchitis and, if I did not go to the doctor soon, which gave me antibiotic, I was on its way tobecome pneumonia.

So I see it highly advisable to vaccinate the flu, and more if there are risk factors.

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01/15/2014 11:26 a.m.

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Well, I vaccinated the seasonal flu for the month of November, I think I remember, when the campaign was in my community and nobody has told me now that I am empty against influenza A, but I think I would not do it, well now that II have said on television that the season was already carrying the flu A.

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01/15/2014 12:33 p.m.
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I already vaccinated at the time (in November) of the seasonal.Of the A, unless my head doctor says otherwise, because not.

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01/15/2014 2:41 p.m.

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AJD, I think now that you say it, that the season also carries to combat the A.

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01/15/2014 2:43 p.m.

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Well here another with doubts.The normal flu vaccine already put it in October and that of the flu A I am leaving Margaritas to see what I do.I have never put it and I when they vaccinate me I have a strong reaction in the arm where they put it on me.So I don't know, I don't know ...

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01/15/2014 3:30 p.m.

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Indeed, as they say up there, the seasonal flu vaccine already includes type A, which by the way is affecting this country this year unusually intense (see figures in Aragon).

And yes, yes and a thousand times yes.You have to get vaccinated.Exposing yourself foolishly to a flu is that;a nonsense that does not demonstrate more strength or courage than who is vaccinated.I will never understand someone who (especially from the medical sector) advises to be vaccinated;An action whose risk-benefit ratio is one of the clearest among all existing medications in the market.I don't understand.

Ah, and for all those who boast of never taking it, saying that one of the basic principles in epidemiology is that thanks to those who vaccinate, those who do not vaccinate have much less possibilities to get infected.That is, if many do not take the flu without vaccinating, it is not because they are immune supermina, but because I and many others have vaccinated.I unnerve every time I hear someone proudly say that of "I don't get fold. I am hard and I never take it" ...

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HanSolo
01/16/2014 5:19 a.m.

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But then because there are so many doctors who are anti -Vacunas?

I, most of friends who have studied medicine, are against, although one ceases to be (slightly) when his son pillo the cough.

They also say that 15% of those who are hospitalized by the flu in a serious way, had been vaccinated.

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The truth is that I never know what to do ...

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01/16/2014 2:33 p.m.

En 1922 descubrieron la insulina, en 1930 la insulina lenta. ¿Que c*** han hecho desde entonces?

     

Today I have heard on the radio that the effectiveness of the vaccine is relatively low, between 70% and 50%, come on, it cannot be said that it is a guarantee.

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01/16/2014 6:44 p.m.

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I agree with Gondrullo and have been putting it for 13 years and I have not caught any flu and that every year I have around and well close people who spend it so those who ask them to tell them to put it on without hesitation.

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01/17/2014 4:25 a.m.
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let's see.

Sherpa41, you said it.But it turns the data.Only 15% of those hospitalized by flu were vaccinated.The rest was not.ergo the conclusion is clear;The flu is more acute and dangerous if you do not vaccinate.That is evidence.

And fer, the effectiveness of the vaccine is complicated to determine why we start from the base that the flu is a mutagen, and therefore, the vaccine we administer is simply a "cocktail" of recent viruses.Even with everything, it works quite well.

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HanSolo
01/17/2014 4:35 a.m.

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Hello, to all, I am new but I can contribute something.- I already vaccinated the flu A, the other time there were so many cases, not as a diabetic, but as hypertensive and lack of spleen, because my defenses are lower, I haveWhat to say that nothing shows anything.Now I have asked in health, and the people vaccinated at the end of 2013, the seasonal vaccine already has a flu strain, so vaccinating again would be in exceptional cases.

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01/21/2014 11:36 a.m.
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Well, I'm not going to put it on ... I cold every year, and for the moment ago I don't get a flu, so I pass ...

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01/21/2014 11:39 a.m.

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