Squeezed orange juice?Sugar through the clouds ...

Very good people, I had a little doubt, I haven't entered the truth here and greet again!That I have not made it for a long time!;)

The issue is that for 3 or 4 days that has given me to take natural orange juices, just squeezed, I thought that natural orange does not elevate you the sugar beastly but I have realized that if or something is happening ..

120 values ​​for breakfast, skewed me 12 of novorapid and breakfast some integral toast and an orange juice .. two hours later .. 350/400 ???

Does anyone know if it is normal?

Greetings and thanks!

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Hi PRZ, my child's dietitian told me to avoid juices, the best whole fruit.
What did you take before?Because for example, a 200 ml glass of milk is 2 portions of hydrates, while 100g d orange make 1 portion, and to make a juice you will have needed several.I always calculate for portions and do very well.
In addition, the entire fruit has fibers that slow the sugar rise, while the juice does not.
I hope I have helped you.

Hi Paqui, the truth is that measuring diabetes for portions I don't know how it goes ... maybe it would be easier for me ... what about or how do you calculate it like this?

Thanks for your help!

@PRZ What do you think you upload more a raw apple or an oven apple?The raw apple you eat it, and the stomach has to digest it.The roast, you give everything done to the stomach ... you eat it almost "puree" and do not give it work, so that sugar of that apple will pass faster to the blood.

The same happens in this case with the fruit.It is not the same to eat an orange, as your juice.The juice is liquid, you remove the pulp, and it goes to the blood directly.In addition, that a juice contains more than one orange.

To get an idea, 100 gr of orange, have 10 gr of sugar.A medium -sized orange will weigh about 150 gr, that is ... 15 grams of sugar.If the juice you took contained 3 oranges ... you got 45 gr of sugar (more than if you drink a cola coil with sugar, yes ... healthier).

In short, foods that contain carbohydrates and are liquid, roasted or puree ... rise much faster.A potato puree, climb the clouds, for example.

The calculation for portions is very easy but you have to weigh food.Personally it doesn't cost me because I stay very calm knowing exactly what he eats, he also serves to choose the foods that come with the composition table.
Thus I know that a Maria cookie is 0.5p and that a juice juice brick is 1 p.
For the calculation you have to know that 10 g of carbohydrates are equivalent to a portion.The weight of the food that would be equivalent to a portion of each of them comes to you on the list.
Now I try to raise the list.

Here is ...
You already know that if in a cookie box it makes you that a cookie has 5g of carbohydrates, equivalent to 0'5p.

100gr of natural orange juice = 1 ration of HC (10g of hydrates).That rises faster than an entire orange ... yes.But it has nothing to do with how many oranges you use to make juice.

My son had breakfast since he debuted (he didn't do it before).It is a ration more than the 5 that breakfasts, so it does not affect it if it goes up fast or slow.

@aaandres I think it does have to do with the oranges used.An orange juice is not the same, than 4 (taking into account that all are the same size).And it rises faster because it is liquid.

Some time ago I already put on a subject that I titled "Let's talk about fruits", the climbs so tremendous that a single orange produces, perhaps more than a banana.Other foreros also commented on the increases produced by that and other fruits.
We return to the usual, each diabetic will better tolerate a fruit than another, but in my case it is tremendous.Not only at two hours of eating, I have ever drew up a dessert orange, and at dawn the fasting glycemia was still very triggered.
Thus, my recommendation is simple: do not eat them.At least type II diabetics not depending on the rapid we have to tell ourselves more.I only have one practical solution, both for orange, bananas or a normal cake with sugar that put you at a family party, etc ... the ones and then to the street, to kick sidewalks, for an hour at least, andIf there are slopes, better.And that is holy hand.

@mimbek, this reminds me of whether it weighs a kilo of straw or a kilo of lead.100gr of natural orange juice = 10gr of HC.With the oranges that need to get it!

@aaandres I don't know what we are discussing ... In part, we both are right :-))

Aaandres, the problem is that this juice is absorbed very quickly and causes you a rush while orange when eating it with its fiber, it goes up, but slower.That happens with all fruits.That is why they recommend eating them whole.Come on 100 grams of whole orange do not behave in the same way as those same 100 grams in juice ... but of course they remain a ration of hydrates.;)

Mimbek said:
A medium -sized orange, will weigh about 150 gr, that is ... 15 grams of sugar.If the juice you took contained 3 oranges ... you got 45 gr of sugar.

Indeed, juice rises much faster than solid orange.As we have two endos (public and private), one advised us (well, put a disapproval face) and another not (as long as it is accompanied by slow hydrates).

Well, Angela also takes orange juice at breakfast sometimes, especially when we go on vacation.We count it as Aaandres tells and put the corresponding insulin, I have not checked with the CTO sensor.It rises in the first hour, but the breakfast post is usually the same as if it will not take it ...

@aaandres and why are you 2 endos?You really need?I tell you because in the last review Jesus told us the ex -ondo of Angela, that he could well teach us, that to do analytics and we have anyone worth us ... and it seems to me that you control quite well, not?

We have two but we use one.That is, more than a year ago we did not pass through the Hospital de Puerta de Hierro.We will have gone about 3 times in these two and a half years of diabetes (and also did not renew a contract for the pediatric endocrine that attended us).Only by the issue of being signed in the case of deciding on the pump.At the moment my son does not want to hear about her.
And the private ... Well, at the moment we are still faithful every 3 months.The Majo Sea is a Salamanca.

Maybe I am wrong, but in my opinion it is not the same 100g of orange as 100g of orange juice, they are not the same portions.To start because when you weigh the 100g of orange, much of that weight corresponds to the fiber, therefore, how will 100g of the juice be the same? Obviously you need more orange so that it will contain more hydrates, since what goes upIt really is juice, the fiber is not absorbed.
In fine, if someone thinks the opposite of explaining it to me because I am interested in the subject.

My daughter takes a juice, of the packaging, when it is low, and quickly rises 60 nities of glucose.I think I remember that it has 12 g of hydrates ... and will be 200g of juice ..

paquir said:
Maybe I am wrong, but in my opinion it is not the same 100g of orange as 100g of orange juice, they are not the same portions.

In the body they do not act the same, the juice is absorbed faster by containing less fiber, but both 100gr of orange and 100gr of orange juice contain the same amount of carbohydrates, about 10gr.

Any look quickly on Google will make you see.For example:
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Forgive that it puts me in the lively debate (almost "combat" hahaha) ... I have heard you talk about slow absorption carbohydrates ... forgive, and those who are?You could explain what are slow (I imagine that the fast ones are the pures and the juices, right?).I also imagine that the slow ones are those that contain fiber ... but which exactly?Thanks to everyone.A hug